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re: Miles-Krag and the JJ situation

Posted on 4/19/11 at 4:12 pm to
Posted by CptBengal
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Posted on 4/19/11 at 4:12 pm to
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It would suck if we still cannot come up with a good game plan in a week.


maybe we could, but JJ couldn't learn it in a week, or was unable to execute it in a week.

If that's the case, Jesus could be designing game plans and we'd still be screwed.
Posted by Wideman
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Posted on 4/19/11 at 4:27 pm to
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If that's the case, Jesus could be designing game plans and we'd still be screwed.
I'm not so sure Jesus would be good at creating a game plan.
Posted by boxcar willie
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Posted on 4/19/11 at 4:33 pm to
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maybe we could, but JJ couldn't learn it in a week, or was unable to execute it in a week.


well we will find out i suppose unless Mett beats him out.
Posted by Rudy40
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Posted on 4/19/11 at 4:44 pm to
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well we will find out i suppose unless Mett beats him out.


I think most have more faith in Mett possibly beating him out than JJ learning a game plan in a week!
Posted by boxcar willie
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Posted on 4/19/11 at 4:59 pm to
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JJ learning a game plan in a week!


all he has to do is run the plays that are called. Like he did against Alabama and Texas AM. Call a good game and he can make the plays. Call a stupid game plan and he is not a QB that can make something out of nothing. Try to run a horizonal underneath sideline to sideline offense without even attempting any kind of vertical downfield attack on first down every single time against stacked defenses that are waiting for that and he just isn't the type of QB that is going to make something happen out of that situation.
Posted by Rudy40
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Posted on 4/19/11 at 5:03 pm to
Actually a tad more complicated than that unfortunately for JJ. Has to read the defense for audibles(qb's do this no matter how good the gameplan). Call the correct audible. Not stare down his primary. If his primary is covered go through his progressions. When he decides to throw hit his receiver (preferably in stride). Again unfortunately for JJ and LSU fans he has huge problems with the last 3 in particular!
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 4/19/11 at 5:17 pm to
You know what I find funny.... Individuals continue to say Jefferson's best games were Alabama/Texas A&M his best game last year was Ole Miss where he accounted for 299 yards passing and rushing.
Posted by boxcar willie
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Posted on 4/19/11 at 5:29 pm to
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Has to read the defense for audibles(qb's do this no matter how good the gameplan). Call the correct audible.


what kind of lattitude are college QB's really given for calling audibles in college? A little, but it's not like the pros with Peyton Manning stepping up to the line and barking out audibles. JJ may be given a little lattitude to do that, but I doubt he is given much.

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Not stare down his primary. If his primary is covered go through his progressions.


with as little as we threw the ball downfield on early downs, if you can't design a play with the quality recievers we have, that the primary reciever isn't wide fricken open, then you shouldn't be offensive coordinating. (oh yeah, he's not coordinating any more for LSU).

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When he decides to throw hit his receiver (preferably in stride).


might not happen, but at least it would back the defense off a little bit and make them respect that we will at least attempt to go down the field with the ball. It would back the safeties out of the box and open up the underneath stuff somewhat. When you have a QB that is not the most accurate (understatement) it's even more imperative to throw down the field on early downs when the defense isn't just sitting there waiting for it. He is rarely going to make a pinpoint accurate throw to a well covered reciever underpressure from a defense waiting on such a play. At least not untill he builds up his confidence by hitting some early down the field passes on 1st downs or 2nd and short downs (and probably not even then).
This post was edited on 4/19/11 at 5:35 pm
Posted by boxcar willie
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Posted on 4/19/11 at 5:31 pm to
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.... Individuals continue to say Jefferson's best games were Alabama/Texas A&M his best game last year was Ole Miss where he accounted for 299 yards passing and rushing.


that's why you can't always go by stats
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 4/19/11 at 5:35 pm to
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that's why you can't always go by stats
So you are really gonna argue that Alabama/Texas A&M were better?

Ignore that against Ole Miss he posted his only QB rating above 200 (209.62)
Forget that against Ole Miss it was his only game over 200 yards passing
Forget that he completed 76.5% of his passes

13/17 254 Yards 1 TD 1 INT
45 yards rushing on 9 attempts 5.0 YPC 1 TD
Posted by boxcar willie
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Posted on 4/19/11 at 5:40 pm to
I'll start adding ole Miss in. But Bama was a hugh game for the fanbase, for the team, for Miles, for the program and he came up big in it.
Against Texas A&M, he might not have had the best stats, but he never looked more confident or more in control.
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 4/19/11 at 6:21 pm to
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Against Texas A&M, he might not have had the best stats, but he never looked more confident or more in control.


Probably had something to do with our running game

Just a hunch
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 4/19/11 at 6:34 pm to
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I'm not so sure Jesus would be good at creating a game plan.

Are you saying Jesus couldn't hit a curve!!!

Posted by JJ27
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Posted on 4/20/11 at 12:58 am to
You trying to say Jesus Christ can't hit a curve ball?
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 4/20/11 at 1:11 am to
He couldn't hit a Chapman 106 mile an hour fastball
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 4/20/11 at 1:19 am to
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Against Texas A&M, he might not have had the best stats, but he never looked more confident or more in control


Occasionally JJ shows he has some talent, it just isn't consistent enough. If he could put together a whole season of A&M type games, LSU would be in a great position. But he hasn't proved he can do it yet.
Posted by Icansee4miles
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Posted on 4/20/11 at 6:38 am to
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Against Texas A&M, he might not have had the best stats, but he never looked more confident or more in control.

Probably had something to do with our running game



Probably had something to do with the aTm DB's being 5 yards behind our receivers, so he didn't have to do anything but make a decent throw to his primary receiver. The SEC is too fast for him, and he is unwilling to throw unless his primary receiver is wide open (and even then there is marginal chance of a connection)
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 4/20/11 at 6:45 am to
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Occasionally JJ shows he has some talent, it just isn't consistent enough. If he could put together a whole season of A&M type games, LSU would be in a great position. But he hasn't proved he can do it yet.

100% accurate.
Posted by Scoob
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Posted on 4/20/11 at 8:12 am to
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Against Texas A&M, he might not have had the best stats, but he never looked more confident or more in control.
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Probably had something to do with the aTm DB's being 5 yards behind our receivers, so he didn't have to do anything but make a decent throw to his primary receiver. The SEC is too fast for him


I really think the speed of the game doesn't bother him as much as people say. I think the coaching last year was a horrible problem. Look at his performances-
pick a game we should win by getting off the bus, say, Vandy- he looked like the entire week, someone told him "don't screw anything up and we'll win", and he couldn't do squat.
Pick a tough game, like Bama, Auburn, A&M in the bowl, it looked like he went out and played, and he did fine in those (much better than Lee for example in Auburn).

If he goes into the season freed up to play without the warning/threat against "blowing things", I'll bet he can look surprisingly solid. Not an NFL performance, but he should move the ball reasonably well, and give the other team issues with his mobility (like Auburn). I bet that's Krag's primary job this spring, to get him into the mindset to just go out and play without thinking too much.
Posted by Bojangles
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Posted on 4/20/11 at 8:12 am to
I played golf with a guy that played football at lsu in the late 70s last week.

He said people should refer to jj as an athlete that plays qb not a qb, brings the prestige of the position down.

True story.

I did laugh but its hard to disagree with him.
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