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re: Miles' general thoughts on the season...

Posted on 12/23/15 at 10:09 pm to
Posted by Nix to Twillie
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2015
20355 posts
Posted on 12/23/15 at 10:09 pm to
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No coach says his team played like shite. It's a slap in the face to the kids that sacrificed for that season.


I don't buy this, Ricky.

(And I know you got pissed at that one guy for calling you Ricky because that's not your name...but F it--your username is RickyDaddy, so I'm calling you Ricky, dammit).

A coach can choose his words carefully, but still admit he didn't like the way they played. I'm sure the players don't think they played well in November, so what's wrong with "WE don't think we played well?"

BTW, Merry Christmas.

Posted by Dallasgrowl
Allen, Texas
Member since Oct 2003
7088 posts
Posted on 12/23/15 at 10:13 pm to
quote:

Well, how about you answer? No insults. Just answer the question.


Alabama prepared to stop Fournette at all cost and they succeeded.
Posted by Dallasgrowl
Allen, Texas
Member since Oct 2003
7088 posts
Posted on 12/23/15 at 10:16 pm to
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I just have to laugh that I got 72 down votes on the first page for saying that the coach knows lsu didn't have a great season.

This fan base fricking sucks.


Hate to burst your little bubble, but that says more about how much you suck, not the fan base.
Posted by Fratigerguy
Member since Jan 2014
4960 posts
Posted on 12/23/15 at 10:24 pm to
So it is your opinion that they only had to stop fournette. That's all they had to game plan for?
Posted by Fratigerguy
Member since Jan 2014
4960 posts
Posted on 12/23/15 at 10:25 pm to
quote:



I bet you can guess.
I know Saban did.


No. I want you to answer what was the only thing they had to game plan for, and what we ran.
Posted by Wind Rivers Tiger
Wyoming
Member since Sep 2011
1033 posts
Posted on 12/23/15 at 10:31 pm to
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No. I want you to answer what was the only thing they had to game plan for, and what we ran.



We ran for squat. Again and again and again and again and again ......
This post was edited on 12/23/15 at 10:33 pm
Posted by Dallasgrowl
Allen, Texas
Member since Oct 2003
7088 posts
Posted on 12/23/15 at 11:42 pm to
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So it is your opinion that they only had to stop fournette. That's all they had to game plan for?


No, that is all Miles came up with, so it was pretty much all they had to stop.
Posted by Dallasgrowl
Allen, Texas
Member since Oct 2003
7088 posts
Posted on 12/23/15 at 11:45 pm to
By the way, why don't you come up with your own questions and answers. You seem to want to argue with someone, so do it with yourself. You may have a chance then.
Posted by tom
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2007
8775 posts
Posted on 12/24/15 at 2:50 am to
I know I am 16 pages late, but Miles is a goddamned retard and this is just more reinforcement for that fact.
Posted by Fratigerguy
Member since Jan 2014
4960 posts
Posted on 12/24/15 at 6:24 am to
So, the fact that we ran 23 rushing plays, and 22 passing plays says what exactly? That you didn't watch the game? You don't know what you're talking about? I often wonder where you guys get some of this. I'm really not sure if it's perception, or if you just get frustrated, turn off the game, and then repeat rant talking points.
Posted by Mulat
Avalon Bch, FL
Member since Sep 2010
17517 posts
Posted on 12/24/15 at 6:24 am to
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No, that is all Miles came up with, so it was pretty much all they had to stop.



If anything speaks to Miles' Dinosaur Thinking this does
Posted by Fratigerguy
Member since Jan 2014
4960 posts
Posted on 12/24/15 at 6:39 am to
But again, this was one of the most balanced games we have ever had in Les Miles' tenure at LSU with respect to rush/pass ratio. Why are folks still ignoring that fact? We didn't run over and over and over again.
Posted by Howyouluhdat
On Fleek St
Member since Jan 2015
9098 posts
Posted on 12/24/15 at 8:09 am to
[quote]
My name isn't Ricky dumb frick./quote]






This dude's got to still be living in his mom's basement
Posted by Howyouluhdat
On Fleek St
Member since Jan 2015
9098 posts
Posted on 12/24/15 at 8:14 am to
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but shite on lsu and does nothing to make lsu better yet demands certain levels of success.



Dude do you really think you make LSU a better program? Nobody gives a frick about you at LSU
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 12/24/15 at 8:18 am to
16 pages? Is there another coach in the country that has every word he says picked apart by idiots more than Miles? I doubt it.
Posted by Howyouluhdat
On Fleek St
Member since Jan 2015
9098 posts
Posted on 12/24/15 at 8:27 am to
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So, the fact that we ran 23 rushing plays, and 22 passing plays says what exactly? That you didn't watch the game? You don't know what you're talking about? I often wonder where you guys get some of this. I'm really not sure if it's perception, or if you just get frustrated, turn off the game, and then repeat rant talking points.





Why don't you post the sequence of plays instead of the overall play count and maybe you can argue that
Posted by SaintInBham
Birmingham
Member since Sep 2015
1173 posts
Posted on 12/24/15 at 9:12 am to
In his last season as coach of the Falcons, Mike Smith look utterly bewildered on the sidelines. It was clear he was in way over his head. He had really good players on the field but was losing anyway, and he didn't understand why. As a Saints fan, I loved this!

This past season Les Miles has had the same exact look on his face when the camera would point his way. Comments like these only support this comparison.
Posted by Jacknola
New Orleans
Member since May 2013
4366 posts
Posted on 12/24/15 at 9:59 am to
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Why don't you post the sequence of plays instead of the overall play count and maybe you can argue that


The strength of group-think myth on this board can be frustrating. This poster is typical because while he recognizes something is wrong, he is incapable of understanding what it is.. so he just defaults to grammer-school football talk.

Dude, why don't YOU do this work, and post the play-by-play and your corrective recommedations? Many people who actually watch and analyze games have broken that Alabama game down over and over, play by play, failure by failure ... yet here you are ... again ... just repeating talking point crap garnered from some talking head babbling like a cretin.

LSU tried every play and sequence in the play book against Alabama. Alabama defensed it all with their base 3-4 almost the entire game, including in many of the few short-yards situations. And they did it with the base defense regardless of the formation, or situation that LSU posed.

It wasn't a matter of "one-dimensional," "stop the run or LF at any cost," "put 8-9-10-11 or 12 in the box" or whatever BS bromide football-challenged people want to throw out there to sound as if they have a clue about what was going down on the field.

The only thing Alabama did differently was play their "heavy" package on the DL a little more than usual. But that was situational.

So.. what should LSU have done about being so completely dominated (the score margin doesn't reflect the play on the field in my opinion)? The most telling moment of the entire Alabama game week was the presser after the game when Miles was asked what he could do different and he answered in effect... "I don't know."

Truth is, he doesn't know. It isn't being stubborn, or hard headed, or ultra-cautious. No, he genuinely doesn't know how to do anything else, or reorganize, or re-tool, or whatever.

It is time to fully grasp this point ... Miles doesn't know how to play the game any other way than the way he always has. And he doesn't know how to change or learn to do something different. He doesn't even know what is wrong.

Say what you will about Saban or Bryant... when they found their systems being outflanked, they found someone who could help them, or learned how to adjust. but first you have to recognize that something is wrong and have some idea what it is.

Posted by Wind Rivers Tiger
Wyoming
Member since Sep 2011
1033 posts
Posted on 12/24/15 at 10:40 am to
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Why don't you post the sequence of plays instead of the overall play count and maybe you can argue that


Yes. I haven't gone back and looked at the play sequence (and will not - too painful) but I suspect that a lot of those passes reflected in the raw totals occurred on third and long or at the point in the game where we were behind in the score and desperate.

Certainly no one who watched the game could honestly argue that we, for example, came out with the strategy of passing to set up the run, or getting the ball to LF in space. We were going to run it up their gut. This didn't work, but from my perspective, this strategy was continued long after it was painfully obvious that it wasn't going to work.

I think Jacknola summed it up and put a bow on it in his post. Whenever our power run game is stopped, as in the Alabama game, there doesn't seem to be a plan B, or any attempt to "outflank" the opposition as he put it.

Saban was sitting on our fastball. We knew, or at least should have known that. We didn't try to catch them off balance with a curveball or an off speed pitch. We served up a big fat fast ball right down the middle.
This post was edited on 12/24/15 at 10:49 am
Posted by Mulat
Avalon Bch, FL
Member since Sep 2010
17517 posts
Posted on 12/24/15 at 11:26 am to
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on third and long or at the point in the game where we were behind in the score and desperate.


THIS

Desperate that is a good word
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