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re: Miles comment in todays's advocate

Posted on 10/12/09 at 11:28 am to
Posted by Tomm
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 10/12/09 at 11:28 am to
Actually, he said he would "get the defense fixed" last season and of course, he did after the season. Out was Mallory...out was Peveto or I like to call them Abbott and Costello. Out was Lane. In comes John Chavis...in comes Ron Cooper...in comes Brick Haley.

Promise made...promised delivered! Les gets an A+ for arranging the defensive fix!
Posted by Tomm
Member since Aug 2009
1298 posts
Posted on 10/12/09 at 11:30 am to
That was a dumb comment that you correctly called the poster on. Anyone who doesn't think the defense has been fixed from last season needs to dump football and take up knitting.
Posted by Cold Cous Cous
Bucktown, La.
Member since Oct 2003
15054 posts
Posted on 10/12/09 at 11:30 am to
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Ask Auburn how that worked out for them. They fixed their offense from 104th to top 5.

But broke their defense from top 5 to 67th
Well one of the primary traits of Malzahn's offense is tht they run a lot of plays, and fast. So you'll get a lot more possessions per ball game, which leads to both inflated offensive stats and deflated defensive stats. A better metric is yards per play, not total yards.
Posted by Tomm
Member since Aug 2009
1298 posts
Posted on 10/12/09 at 11:31 am to
Uh, psst, the defense and the offense aren't that related. Different coaches...different coordinators, etc. I really, really, really don't think that fixing the defense broke the offense.
Posted by Nawlens Gator
louisiana
Member since Sep 2005
5846 posts
Posted on 10/12/09 at 11:31 am to

Zook used comments like:
it's correctable
we're getting better and better.
Non of it was true.

Les is way better and when he says I'll get it fixed I believe him. I think his time frame is different than posters on here though. After all he did get a new DC last yr with great results. All the fixes may not happen this year.

Even so whoever kept calling that option needs to go sooner than later.

Posted by magicman0001
Cresson, TX (DFW area)
Member since Dec 2008
1129 posts
Posted on 10/12/09 at 11:32 am to
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Of course he knows its the playcall, he's not going to say it publicly. Kind of like last year when he kept saying the defense played fine.


i agree with this, if in fact, it IS the route Miles is going to take. he allowed Malveto to find their own way out and made it look like more of a promotion than getting rid of them. Although i know we wound up paying the price for his waiting (but then again, we wouldve been screwed had we fired both during the season also). i believe it gives him a great reputation with other coordinators around the league. In that he wont throw them under the bus or fire them during the season, and he will assist them in finding another job while replacing theirs if they dont pan out. Its kinda like a bittersweet symphony IMO.
Posted by TigerJeff
the Emerald Coast
Member since Oct 2006
16356 posts
Posted on 10/12/09 at 11:32 am to
If he really believes that, it doesn't bode well. I mean, the coach should call plays that puts his players in the best position to succeed. The plays they're calling don't do that. Jefferson in the pocket is not working, due to his taking too deep of a drop, and his general lack of pocket awareness. Much more effective to roll him out. The option is not working. Why run it?
Posted by TiegerTim
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2007
2986 posts
Posted on 10/12/09 at 11:34 am to
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We heard "we'll get this fixed" all of last year. This scares me.....




is our D NOT better....you gotta give him SOME credit..
so, he'll fix the offense after the season?? why not make some adjusments now? i think thats what the poster was sayin. Miles said all of last year, during the season, that we would get this fixed. Yes, he fixed it but after the season was over. And that is better than not at all, but the thing is, there are some things that he can do THIS year to get better THIS year.. lets do that....
Posted by Dalosaqy
I can't quite re
Member since Dec 2007
12321 posts
Posted on 10/12/09 at 11:34 am to
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He's taking the offense over boys, sink or swim.


If Crowton has been calling the plays, then I hope Miles plans to intervene. In a big way. Starting October 24th.
Posted by Tomm
Member since Aug 2009
1298 posts
Posted on 10/12/09 at 11:34 am to
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Zook used comments like: it's correctable we're getting better and better. Non of it was true. Les is way better and when he says I'll get it fixed I believe him. I think his time frame is different than posters on here though. After all he did get a new DC last yr with great results. All the fixes may not happen this year. Even so whoever kept calling that option needs to go sooner than later.


Insightful post from a Gator fan, but I agree 100%. It is hard to fix coaching issues during the season, but I think the OC and OL coaches jobs are on the line for 2010. And you join a chorus of many about the option play. Either teach the players how to run it properly or scrap it. That isn't the heart of the LSU scheme anyway. Good post!
Posted by LSUBlake8
Pville
Member since Aug 2008
343 posts
Posted on 10/12/09 at 11:37 am to
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so, he'll fix the offense after the season?? why not make some adjusments now? i think thats what the poster was sayin. Miles said all of last year, during the season, that we would get this fixed. Yes, he fixed it but after the season was over. And that is better than not at all, but the thing is, there are some things that he can do THIS year to get better THIS year.. lets do that....


I agree....there are things he can do this year.....and I truly believe he will.

I'm gonna trust the coach to fix it....because he has in the past.
Posted by Tomm
Member since Aug 2009
1298 posts
Posted on 10/12/09 at 11:38 am to
Next to impossible to fix major issues within a season. Why don't you give us a list of teams that have done that? I'm not sure I can think of one...EVER!! How many defenses for example start out ranked near the bottom during a season and move up to one of the best? I can think of say...0!

Miles can take over the playcalling but if Studwara is a problem at OL coach, is he supposed to spend practice as OL coach too?
Posted by calitiger
Uptown New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
2363 posts
Posted on 10/12/09 at 11:39 am to
Well, if the old adage holds true that you learn a lot more from losing and adversity than from winning, then we will see whether Miles is ready for his PhD over the next two weeks. One thing that I console myself with is that he has shown no apprehension about making coaching changes. If Crowton isn't getting it done (and as evidenced by Saturday night, he isn't) then I have confidence that Les will show him the door at the end of the season. What he will do in the interim is what interests me.
Posted by epbart
new york city
Member since Mar 2005
2930 posts
Posted on 10/12/09 at 11:42 am to
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It’s not the play call; it’s the execution,” Miles said. “When you call the pass, you’ve got to protect the passer.


hmm... my first thought is to be concerned that Miles thinks the play calling was okay. While I am no expert, I agree with many of the criticisms I've seen on here over the past few weeks.

Starting with the option: we don't look good running it, and I don't think that will change, unless they have RS run it. I doubt we average more than 2 ypc running it the last 3 games. The only credible reasoning I've seen for it is from Carl Dubois' article saying it was ineffective, but helped stretch the D, which allowed the middle to open up when running Scott. Even if this is true, it seems like the intent is basically to forfeit 1st down, so you can gain 4 yards on 2nd down. This doesn't seem like sound strategy. The option just isn't working the way we're running it, so should be scrapped. All it does is set us up for 2nd and long.

There are other ways to make the running game effective. I don't think I've even seen one draw play this season. Not to mention more use of misdirection plays.

Passing plays-- not my observation, but someone said when we want to throw the ball deep, everyone is going deep, with no short to intermediate routes. If this is true (and it does seem on most of JJ's sacks that he is staring way downfield), then it doesn't seem like good play calling. Not only does this make it easier for the dbs to be in the same area and cover the receivers better, but it takes more time and allows the pressure to get to JJ. It definitely seems work needs to be done to give JJ shorter outlets to dump the ball off. If they send one or two receivers deep to draw the safeties away, JJ should be able to make nice short, accurate throws to the 3rd receiver, the TE or a RB, who should be running shorter routes.
Posted by PistolaVeloce
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Oct 2009
428 posts
Posted on 10/12/09 at 11:43 am to
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He's taking the offense over boys, sink or swim.

I bet GC is gone by the end of the year.



Can't be any worse now can it. I'm fairly confident in the Crowton comment. He will be gone. I think Les knows more about offense than everyone gives him credit for. I'd much rather our traditional pro-style offense than this bastardized spread. He knows we aren't making the right calls with the right personnel in the right situations and he knows we aren't disguising or confusing any defenses, of course hes not going to publicly hang Crowton, that's just bad business and I don't think the team nor future recruits would respect him very much for doing so.
Posted by TiegerTim
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2007
2986 posts
Posted on 10/12/09 at 11:44 am to
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I agree....there are things he can do this year.....and I truly believe he will.
i to think there are some things he can do now.
quote:

I'm gonna trust the coach to fix it....
tis all we can do this year
Posted by LSUBlake8
Pville
Member since Aug 2008
343 posts
Posted on 10/12/09 at 11:45 am to
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tis all we can do this year


quote:

TiegerTim


Posted by TiegerTim
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2007
2986 posts
Posted on 10/12/09 at 11:47 am to
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Next to impossible to fix major issues within a season.
MAKE SOME FRIGGING ADJUSMENTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
quote:

Miles can take over the playcalling
if crowton is resposible for whats been called, he needs to.
quote:

if Studwara is a problem at OL coach, is he supposed to spend practice as OL coach too?
He'd better!!!!!!
Posted by Jaydeaux
Covington
Member since May 2005
18808 posts
Posted on 10/12/09 at 11:47 am to
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We heard "we'll get this fixed" all of last year. This scares me.....


I guess anything would scare you. People bitch and he responds then they bitch at what he says. If we're 9-3 at the end of the year that's what we expected end of story
Posted by TiegerTim
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2007
2986 posts
Posted on 10/12/09 at 11:49 am to
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If we're 9-3 at the end of the year that's what we expected
i agree with this. after what we saw this weekend, most people are having trouble seeing how we'll get to that. give it time tho, we're all still disappointed over this game...
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