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re: Miles and Cam better not let these guys down.

Posted on 1/9/16 at 8:34 pm to
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 1/9/16 at 8:34 pm to
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Well, I would guess he's still here because he's an LSU fan........


debatable

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was one before Miles came..


also debatable

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will be one after Miles leaves.


And has probably hated Miles since day one

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He said MILES let the fans down. Miles is NOT LSU no matter how much you fricktards act like he is.


If Miles fails...LSU fails. If Miles succeeds...LSU succeeds. How the frick did y'all survive the Archer and Hallman years without putting a bullet in your tiny brains?




fricktard
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 1/9/16 at 8:41 pm to
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You call that a safety net? I mean, UF sort of did end up pretty rough and the East did shite the bed.

I mean, are you going to pretend otherwise?

Besides, it's pretty F'n unlikely the whole west shits the bed like that. Some safety net.



You had to put that in there, like a kid that won't take off the training wheels. You are afraid. You have to open a door that will let you feed your addiction.

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That's a generalized claim that allows you to be right now matter who does the bitching and allowing you to lump ALL who have ever bitched into the same pot.

Lame.


Am I right? I am and you know it.

"You'll NEVER get the craziest pumpers to go on record. They play the heads I win, tails you lose game. If LSU loses 3-5, they will ALL post about how wet didn't expect more.

Hell, they used the fact that negatigers predicted 3-4 losses as an argument for why Miles didn't do poorly this year. Never mind that those predictions were BECAUSE of Miles.

Meanwhile, the pumpers avoid expecting a great season like the plague."

Recognize this? Generalizations perhaps?

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Exactly the same amount as your constant bitching about negative comments accomplishes. But, that shite sure doesn't stop you, now does it?


No. I don't see why you have a problem with what I write. Do you have any idea what hypocrisy means? Why is my complaining worth any less than yours? Get over yourself.

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But yea, it IS fricking magnanimous of me to say I would happily eat crow if Miles defies what many of us think he will do.......ya know..............given that even if we go fricking 2-10, you'll be in here bitching about the fans bitching.




Well we just would have to wait and see wouldn't we? Just don't hold your breath on that. It is more likely that I'll be right than you will be. But keep hoping for that 2-10 season so you can be right. And keep griping each and every game, win or lose. You need it don't you?
Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 1/9/16 at 8:46 pm to
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You need it don't you?


He may need that but you need a frickin lobotomy. The king of the dumazzes on a roll tonight.....gotta love it!!!
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 1/9/16 at 8:52 pm to
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Choctaw
So. You think it's debatable he was a fan before Miles arrived, but he frequents an LSU site now and follows LSU but you also think he probably hated Miles from Day 1.

Hence, you think some random person who had no interest in LSU started following LSU when they hired a guy he "hated from day 1". For what, the sole purpose of wishing LSU had never hired Miles?

And you think the negas are irrational?

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If Miles fails...LSU fails. If Miles succeeds...LSU succeeds. How the frick did y'all survive the Archer and Hallman years without putting a bullet in your tiny brains?
By recognizing that one could notice Archer and Hallman were bad coaches without wanting to cease being LSU fans.

And, well frick. How dare you say bad things about those coaches. Did you say bad things about them when they were here? If so..............um.............hypocrite much?
Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 1/9/16 at 8:53 pm to
BOOM!!!!
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 1/9/16 at 8:58 pm to
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Am I right? I am and you know it.

Are you right that some people might bitch about Miles' performance? Well of fricking course you are right.

You have any other brilliant predictions? I mean, SOME people might bitch? Well no frick.

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Well we just would have to wait and see wouldn't we? Just don't hold your breath on that. It is more likely that I'll be right than you will be
Doubt it.

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But keep hoping for that 2-10 season so you can be right.
More pumper bull shite. The assertion that people critical of Miles hope for a shitty season just so we can say "we were right". Yeah. frick you. EVERY YEAR during Hallman I "hoped for great seasons". I just knew they weren't coming. That said, I would have much rathered see Hallman recover somehow and turn in 2 national titles. I would have been quite happy to be wrong.

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And keep griping each and every game, win or lose. You need it don't you?

And again, this is just flat out false. I have no griped during every game win or lose.

Then again, you fricks think it is "griping" when we point out that you shouldn't clear trophy space just because we beat a 7-5 Tech team in a nothing bowl. I enjoyed the game just fine though, thank you very much.
Posted by WiscyTiger
Bear Lake, WI
Member since Nov 2008
1430 posts
Posted on 1/9/16 at 9:02 pm to
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quote: I am not shifting any blame you idiot. I am telling you simply that LSU had a QB who isnt developed yet.

quote: I'm merely observing that the net effect is the same. Either the coaching staff is blindingly bad at developing QBs to perform even mediocre OR, the coaching staff is blindingly bad at evaluating QBs such that they end up with QBs who are a complete hindrance to the offense.


It's been 11 years with Miles, I think it's safe to expect him to do the same stuff that he always does. I could understand if it was just one year, like with having to start a new QB with JL/JJ, after losing RP11. Now we see the vanilla/predictable offensive woes and QB development problems are the general rule every year (and that Mett '13 was an outlier).

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It will be more of the same old shite. Book it.


Posted by bigoyster
Mobile, AL
Member since Jun 2009
623 posts
Posted on 1/9/16 at 9:06 pm to
This place used to be funny. It is getting just silly now. I mean you win a bowl game and you gripe? You boys aren't even clever like you used to be either.



I just want to know what that other dude asked.
Why is it when you coonsasses bitch about Miles it is a good thing but when you get called out for doing it that's bad?
I'll hang up and listen.

Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
89754 posts
Posted on 1/9/16 at 9:12 pm to
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I'm a realist, and we fans who are realist look at the product being put on the field and how can it be made better.


Yet no coach out there besides saban puts a better product year in and year out. The only time he didn't was 2010.

But some how any coach could come in here and win more than the current coach. When saban proved he couldn't do that here.
Posted by Get Real Bro
Member since Dec 2015
207 posts
Posted on 1/9/16 at 9:24 pm to
I would not say it's all the fault of coaching, but mostly the fault of coaching. Why? Because they have had 11 years to fix the passing game.
1) Offensive Coordinator Pay 2015 - #1
2) Passing Offense 2015 - #106

Now, I don't believe 105 teams have a better QB, Lineman, TE's & WR's than LSU. I do like Miles, but it's the job of the staff to diagnose and fix the passing game this year. Why would anyone argue this point.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 1/9/16 at 9:50 pm to
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And, well frick. How dare you say bad things about those coaches. Did you say bad things about them when they were here? If so..............um.............hypocrite much?


Yes I did...and neither of them could hold Miles' jock when it comes to coaching and literally any aspect related to coaching. But I supported both of them as long as they were on the sideline because if they failed than LSU failed...and i don't have the power to fire coaches. So it's pointless to bitch and moan and whine like a little count. Just support the fricking coaches and the team and let the shite play out instead of being "miserable".

I mean...there are posters on this site that would rather see Miles lose than LSU win. There were posters that were hoping we lost to A&M and the bowl game because it may help getting him fired. These are facts. Those people don't love LSU...they hate Les Miles...which is fricking ridiculous. He's just a goddamn football coach.

I've never in my life wanted LSU to lose in any sport...no matter who the coach was. I guess that makes me a sunshine pumper
This post was edited on 1/9/16 at 9:58 pm
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16173 posts
Posted on 1/9/16 at 10:48 pm to
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Now, I don't believe 105 teams have a better QB, Lineman, TE's & WR's than LSU. I do like Miles, but it's the job of the staff to diagnose and fix the passing game this year. Why would anyone argue this point.


I can't argue with that.

I might be considered a sunshine pumper, negatard, (or just plain old tard) but I would say that if we finish at least 2nd in the SEC west next season and we are ranked as at least the 3rd best team in the SEC, and with a more prestigious Bowl victory, then I will say we had an successfull season. We still have some ground to cover in recruiting and development of better offense execution, play calling, and scheme before we can catch up with Alabama.

WE should at least be in the hunt for a SEC west title and playoffs next season though and we should see improvement in coaching on the offense side of the ball. Anything short of that and I think it would be reasonable, whether you are a pumper, negatard, or tard, to question the future of our coaching staff.

Posted by griswold
Member since Oct 2009
4322 posts
Posted on 1/9/16 at 11:20 pm to
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Miles is NOT LSU no matter how much you fricktards act like he is.


THIS X 999,999,999,999
Posted by WiscyTiger
Bear Lake, WI
Member since Nov 2008
1430 posts
Posted on 1/10/16 at 1:43 am to
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But I supported both of them as long as they were on the sideline because if they failed than LSU failed...and i don't have the power to fire coaches. So it's pointless to bitch and moan and whine like a little count. Just support the fricking coaches and the team and let the shite play out instead of being "miserable".


I agree that we don't have the power to fire coaches as individual fans (unless we are a T. Boone Pickens type fan), but we do as a whole. If the losses get bad enough and the fanbase turns on the HC, it can result in getting the coach fired. That almost happened in 2015. It may happen in 2016 if we see more of the same. The AD and BOS are responsive to the fanbase, ticket sales, etc., and want to think whatever they do has the support of the majority of the fanbase.

There may come a time that if a coach is holding a program back, it's time to fire him. If so, blindly supporting the coach in all circumstances may not be what is best for the program. In this light, you can't look at all comments that are not supportive of the HC by the fanbase as harmful to the program. In that situation supportive comments of the HC by sunshine pumpers could be viewed as harmful to the program, if the best thing for the program is to get rid of the HC that is holding the program back.
Posted by 11thACR
Atlanta, Georgia
Member since Mar 2012
1652 posts
Posted on 1/10/16 at 5:17 am to
UM players did this after Urban talked UF into the Nat Champ game in 2007,
and Lost to App State in opener the following year.

Hope it works out for everyone....
Posted by justustm2
Member since Sep 2005
4158 posts
Posted on 1/10/16 at 5:38 am to
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Might want to watch those 3 losses again and tell me 5 NFL linemen could have made those poorly thrown balls completions.


Put Dallas O-line in front of Harris and I guarantee he completes many more passes. Did you even watch the freeking game? He was running for his life. Bama's D-line was throwing our linemen at Harris.
Posted by chalupa
Member since Jan 2011
6942 posts
Posted on 1/10/16 at 8:33 am to
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I believe they finally realize they have to be more creative on offense and are going to try to add things like a middle and short passing game next season, or at least I hope so.


It took one of the highest paid coaching staffs in the country this long to figure out something the fans have been screaming?
Posted by Rico Tubbs
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
465 posts
Posted on 1/10/16 at 8:38 am to
It took one of the highest paid coaching staffs in the country this long to figure out something the fans have been screaming?



Posted by Rico Tubbs
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
465 posts
Posted on 1/10/16 at 8:46 am to
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et no coach out there besides saban puts a better product year in and year out


What?
Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 1/10/16 at 8:53 am to
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would rather see Miles lose than LSU win


Do you have any idea how hopelessly stupid this statement makes you sound? It is so old and tired...and cant be proven.


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There were posters that were hoping we lost to A&M and the bowl game because it may help getting him fired. These are facts.


You dont know this with even a little bit of certainty because you cant prove it, and all it does it lump you in the same category as Bee, rickdaddy, and balls.

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Those people don't love LSU...they hate Les Miles..


Again, mindless fodder. No way to prove.

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He's just a goddamn football coach.



RIGHT!!!! RIGHT!!!! Which makes those idiots who blindly support every move the man makes and crucify those who dare question his actions.....many of which have not proved to be in the best interest of LSU.....completely baffling.
He's an employee of the school...nothing more and nothing less. Hes a good football coach....not great....GOOD! He was closer to great his first few years here. But if youre telling me that there arent at least a half dozen coaches that could have come in here in the last 4 seasons and won at least as many games as Miles did, given the talent thats come through here, come on man!!
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