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re: Men’s Track 4x1 Relay just dropped the baton smh

Posted on 6/7/19 at 9:51 pm to
Posted by GhostofJackson
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Posted on 6/7/19 at 9:51 pm to
It's entirely reasonable they could have won this meet. I think they easily left 30 points on the table. Should have scored in the Hammer, had a second long jumper, 100, 200, 110H, 400, 4x1 and 4x4.
Posted by Pedro
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Posted on 6/7/19 at 9:55 pm to
Well he finished second 2 days ago but still
Posted by GhostofJackson
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Posted on 6/7/19 at 10:01 pm to
LSU finishes 7th for the men. After all the hype, women might finish higher as long as they can hold a baton.
Posted by Pedro
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Posted on 6/7/19 at 10:09 pm to
Bertman not opening the checkbook for Pat Henry has to be one of the biggest jokes.
Posted by semjase
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Member since May 2014
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Posted on 6/7/19 at 10:20 pm to
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Shaver needs to retire soon. This has been such an epic meltdown over the past 2 weeks, I'm not even mad anymore. Shaver just has that ability to pull defeat from the jaws of victory. It's hilarious.
Yall do know where Pat Henry has been coaching since Bertman let him walk a la Saban. Woodward needs to get him back in BR where he belongs. The track program hasn't quite been the same since he left.....
Posted by GhostofJackson
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Posted on 6/7/19 at 10:25 pm to
Yeah but Pat Henry is 67. I know some coaches want to coach til they die but even his teams has started to fall off so I wonder if he has the same steam he used to. He's had one title in the past 5 years. Might be time to try to find a younger coach.
Posted by rilesrick
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Posted on 6/7/19 at 10:44 pm to
Not the first time, won’t be the last.
Posted by Tigers eyes
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 6/7/19 at 11:17 pm to
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5th place

They had enough qualify they should have finished top 3 at the least. IDK what happened, but everyone seemed to underachieve. If it was just one person or one team (like the relay team) I'd say it was the individuals, but it seems like a lot underachieved. IMO this is on Shaver.
Posted by Choupiqueboy
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 6/8/19 at 3:09 am to
Dennis Shaver just cannot get it done: This dropped baton is routine!! False starts! Any number of late season mishaps have been his MO, just does not know how to get the team geared up for championships. The recent SEC Championship was a fluke, and LSU can do much better!
Posted by Tigers eyes
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 6/8/19 at 6:28 am to
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Dennis Shaver just cannot get it done:

How did he even get the job when Pat Henry left? Pat was a fricking legend. I hated when he left. And the track teams haven't been as good since.
Posted by Pedro
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Posted on 6/8/19 at 7:08 am to
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How did he even get the job when Pat Henry left?
I mean he’s won a couple national titles it’s not like he’s some scrub or something. The mistake wasn’t hiring shaver as much as letting pat walk
Posted by LAD
New Iberia
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 6/8/19 at 8:45 am to
Absent Mondo snapping a pole in half, this meet went about as bad as it could have for LSU. The amazing double win in long jump and high jump was nice, though.
Posted by Htowntiger90
Houston
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 6/8/19 at 8:48 am to
Fuuuuugggg and we were favored to do something this year.
Posted by Tigers eyes
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 6/8/19 at 9:50 am to
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The mistake wasn’t hiring shaver as much as letting pat walk

Well, Pat was definitely better.
Posted by Martin Blank
Member since Sep 2005
397 posts
Posted on 6/8/19 at 12:31 pm to
Stupid question - how is a coach responsible for baton drops in individual meets?

I get the criticism of no middle or long distance guys. That’s a structural / recruiting issue that coaches are responsible for. Shaver decided to not recruit those guys or hire a coach to develop them.

Isn’t dropping a baton the runner’s fault? I’m sure they literally work that every day in practice.
Posted by tigercross
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 6/8/19 at 12:56 pm to
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I get the criticism of no middle or long distance guys.


Of the 214.5 points scored by the top 5 teams in the meet how many came in events 800m or longer? What % of those points were scored by Stanford? Building a contending team with material scholarship dollars dedicated to distance runners is a losing proposition, especially in Baton Rouge.

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I’m sure they work on that literally every day in practice.


Teams typically don’t do baton work more than 2x/week.
Posted by ExpoTiger
Member since Jul 2014
6495 posts
Posted on 6/8/19 at 1:59 pm to
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No one, but Shaver needs to retire soon. This has been such an epic meltdown over the past 2 weeks, I'm not even mad anymore. Shaver just has that ability to pull defeat from the jaws of victory. It's hilarious.



This post was edited on 6/8/19 at 2:01 pm
Posted by Pedro
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Posted on 6/9/19 at 12:38 pm to
That’s exactly what I’m saying dumb frick.

That was one of those situations where you let a high caliber coach go with no viable replacement available. They did the best they could hiring someone but they shouldn’t have let what they had go in the first place.
Posted by GhostofJackson
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Posted on 6/9/19 at 1:21 pm to
Hypothetically, Shaver resigns tomorrow. Who does LSU go after?
This post was edited on 6/9/19 at 1:22 pm
Posted by Pedro
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Member since Jul 2008
33532 posts
Posted on 6/9/19 at 10:08 pm to
I’d go after Duane Ross from North Carolina A&T personally
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