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re: Men’s BBall invest more into NIL

Posted on 3/24/25 at 3:00 pm to
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
42395 posts
Posted on 3/24/25 at 3:00 pm to
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LSU men’s basketball is dead.


You gotta look at the positive.

Posted by WhySoSerious
No.
Member since Jan 2014
884 posts
Posted on 3/24/25 at 3:32 pm to
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we should stick with the known failure.

That we hired (mistake) for the remainder of his contract (2 years) while giving him a better chance to win (budget increase). Has little to do with his coaching ability more about money management & risk analysis.
Posted by WhySoSerious
No.
Member since Jan 2014
884 posts
Posted on 3/24/25 at 3:40 pm to
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Drake's HC

Seems like a good coach. Not sure about his recruiting. I wouldn’t be confident enough to buyout MM & hire him. Those same players wouldn’t win in the SEC.
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non-critical thinking people

Come on man. Is it more logical to think the AD wants to tank the basketball program, or that he’s trying to make the best of a bad situation. Be serious.
Posted by otowntiger
O-Town
Member since Jan 2004
16751 posts
Posted on 3/24/25 at 3:40 pm to
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The question I have is, why are we bringing MM back in the first place? It makes ZERO sense…
agreed. He has already proven that he can’t get it done at LSU. Another year will be more time and money wasted.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
36376 posts
Posted on 3/24/25 at 3:43 pm to
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Is it more logical to think the AD wants to tank the basketball program, or that he’s trying to make the best of a bad situation. Be serious.



Serious question.


Did Scott Woodward show his face in the PMAC during SEC play?


I didn’t see him at any game I was there
Posted by Ampipe96
Member since Sep 2020
1606 posts
Posted on 3/24/25 at 4:01 pm to
So you’d have to have your head in the sand as an AD if you thought this guy would put a winnjng product on the floor with a $2mill budget. I have no idea what we have spent on a roster only what has been said or reported. But if we are going to run it back with McMahon, I’d walk into his office today and ask him very directly what resources he needed to build a tournament worthy roster, but he would have every available resource
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
34064 posts
Posted on 3/24/25 at 4:37 pm to
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Not sure about his recruiting.


McMahon has signed two top 20 recruiting classes and has won a grand total of 14 SEC (regular season) games in 3 years with them. I'm willing to roll the dice on someone else. What use is "good recruiting" if you can't translate it to on-court performance.

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Those same players wouldn’t win in the SEC.


Those same players beat two SEC teams McMahon couldn't beat Missouri and Vanderbilt). They also beat one he did beat, Kansas St. I'm willing to bet he could get a better class of transfers at LSU than he could at Drake. Given he was already able to beat SEC teams with "lesser players", I be willing to give him a shot to see what he could do with better players. Even if they were just on the same level of all three of McMahon's rosters.

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Come on man. Is it more logical to think the AD wants to tank the basketball program, or that he’s trying to make the best of a bad situation. Be serious.


The AD CREATED the bad situation. McMahon is his hire. Yet rather than accepting the reality nearly 100 games of results/data have produced and changing course, he's rolling out the same coach and expecting different results. He's not "making the best of a bad situation". He's either not recognizing it is a bad situation or worse, he recognizes it is a bad situation and choosing to not meaningfully address it.

The situation creates a vicious cycle. LSU (purportedly) needs "better" players. Well, those types of players will be in-demand for other programs too. Given nearly all of those program will be able to display a track record of success better than LSU, that means LSU will have to grossly overpay for such guys. If not, the players will likely choose to sign with programs where they have more confidence they can succeed. On the flip-side, if LSU can't sign those better, expensive, in-demand players, then they are left with the second tier group which McMahon has already proven he can't win with.
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
23178 posts
Posted on 3/24/25 at 6:04 pm to
On a somewhat positive note, When you are at the bottom, there is only one way out....
Posted by Geaux wylder
Mississippi
Member since Jan 2021
176 posts
Posted on 3/24/25 at 6:15 pm to
Save it for football baseball and women’s basketball until we get someone that can coach them
Posted by jamarr
Member since Jul 2019
1149 posts
Posted on 3/24/25 at 6:20 pm to
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Yet rather than accepting the reality nearly 100 games of results/data have produced and changing course


they are arguing that they are changing course, by significantly raising player salary, which if true, could conceivably be helpful
Posted by monsterballads
Gulf of America
Member since Jun 2013
31148 posts
Posted on 3/24/25 at 6:24 pm to
You’re going to have massive turnover every year with this clown as coach
Posted by Imber
Member since Sep 2017
17547 posts
Posted on 3/24/25 at 6:28 pm to
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if you are going to transform the roster and spend a bunch of money.


Posted by jamarr
Member since Jul 2019
1149 posts
Posted on 3/24/25 at 6:36 pm to
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You’re going to have massive turnover every year with this clown as coach


or any coach really
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