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re: MBB: Damion Collins gone - transfer portal
Posted on 4/4/25 at 3:32 pm to SEC Doctor
Posted on 4/4/25 at 3:32 pm to SEC Doctor
Hmmmmm, men’s basketball player….oh, yeah….that’s the sport they play between football and baseball seasons.
Big old orange round ball, if I remember right!
Big old orange round ball, if I remember right!
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Posted on 4/16/25 at 10:18 pm to SEC Doctor
Headed to USF
Posted on 4/16/25 at 10:47 pm to Alt26
And here's your same exact b/s again. Please learn a new shtick.
Posted on 4/17/25 at 12:58 am to Alt26
Don’t worry, I saw where we almost got a couple of decent players. Moral victories, they’re not just for the regular season anymore.
Posted on 4/17/25 at 8:57 am to SEC Doctor
To the dweebs with the year 0 BS, No it’s not year O since there isn’t the threat of sanctions or an investigation going on at this time but then you already knew that.
Posted on 4/17/25 at 9:12 am to mcspufftiger7
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To the dweebs with the year 0 BS, No it’s not year O since there isn’t the threat of sanctions or an investigation going on at this time but then you already knew that.
Humor me, what happens if McMahon's 2025 overall class ranking ends up LOWER than his 2022 (aka "year 0") class ranking, despite the lack of an "ominous threat of sanctions"? Because that is where things are trending at the moment:
2022 overall signing class (transfers + freshmen) rank: 17
2025 overall signing class (transfers + freshmen) rank: 21 (currently)
Given in both seasons he would only return 3 players from the prior roster, would that mean the impact of those "scary threats" relative to 4 years later would amount to nothing? Thus making "year 0" a figment of imagination?
Posted on 4/17/25 at 12:02 pm to Alt26
Still plenty of good players in the portal, are we gonna get any?
Posted on 4/17/25 at 12:18 pm to Alt26
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Does this mean next year is actually "Year ZERO...2.0"? Because as of now LSU only has 3 returning players for next season...just like in 2022-23.
And you could make a very good argument that the 3 returning players in 22-23 were better and more accomplished players.
The counter to that would inevitably the cloud hanging over the program was a huge detriment, but if you go back and look at the recruiting and transfer rankings for that year...at least in a relative sense....not really.
Posted on 4/17/25 at 12:32 pm to Tiger Ugly
Every season under McMahon has had an LSU approved and promoted, excuse tagline.
Yea 1- “Cloud of negativity”
Year 2- “Actually its year 1”
Year 3- “We forgot NIL existed”
Can’t wait to see what fresh bullshite they feed the fans next season. The even funnier part will be watching the mcmen swallow it and say “more please.”
Yea 1- “Cloud of negativity”
Year 2- “Actually its year 1”
Year 3- “We forgot NIL existed”
Can’t wait to see what fresh bullshite they feed the fans next season. The even funnier part will be watching the mcmen swallow it and say “more please.”
Posted on 4/17/25 at 12:37 pm to Tiger Ugly
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but if you go back and look at the recruiting and transfer rankings for that year...at least in a relative sense....not really.
That's what I've been saying for three years!
When Wade was fired and the entire roster entered the portal it was a novel event. So yes, at that particular moment, things looked bad. Fortunately, LSU didn't have to play a game at that moment...or at any point in the next 6 months. What happened after that was three players decided to return. McMahon did a good, hell, you could argue great job on the recruiting trail given the timing in signing a top 20 HS class. He then brought in a transfer class that everyone who followed CBB felt was a reasonably good haul of players. We have posters TODAY celebrating the current transfer class because of its high ranking (currently 8th). Well that first transfer class was ranked 11th, which may end up being higher ranked than this class when things are all said and done.
Everyone opinion was McMahon did a good job that first offseason...until January when the wheels fell off the season and he lost 14 straight. Suddenly, the dismal performance had nothing to do with questionable coaching and the recruiting efforts celebrated 10 months prior were now looked upon as "bad", thus creating an unwinnable situation. It didn't become "year 0" until the results were terrible. Just like LSU wasn't destitute with NIL funding this year until the losses again piled up.
Posted on 4/17/25 at 12:48 pm to Alt26
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It didn't become "year 0" until the results were terrible. Just like LSU wasn't destitute with NIL funding this year until the losses again piled up
yes, year the zero commentary was convenient - but I think time and what other schools have done and also proven it pure rationalization without substance.
the beat writer for the Advocate - he's not a reporter really, and does not in the true sense of the job do what a beat writer should as far as reporting, interviewing, etc.
But the guy does know basketball and he's written several analysis articles on the transfer class and the guys coming back. I'm not filled with confidence about what we have to this point making us significantly better. Hopefully we can add a few more.
Posted on 4/17/25 at 12:58 pm to Alt26
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When Wade was fired and the entire roster entered the portal it was a novel event. So yes, at that particular moment, things looked bad. Fortunately, LSU didn't have to play a game at that moment...or at any point in the next 6 months. What happened after that was three players decided to return
The three players:
Mwani rehabbing after shoulder surgery
Adam Miller rehabbing from major knee surgery
Justice a 17 year old mid year entry in January with about 15 games of experience
At least tell the whole story.
Posted on 4/17/25 at 1:08 pm to Tiger Ugly
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And you could make a very good argument that the 3 returning players in 22-23 were better and more accomplished players.
This is INSANE revisionist history
Posted on 4/17/25 at 1:22 pm to Alt26
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overall class ranking ends up LOWER than his 2022 (aka "year 0") class ranking, despite the lack of an "ominous threat of sanctions"? Because that is where things are trending at the moment:
when you say trending, do you mean trending down the rankings in the sense that all teams are trending down if they are not at that moment adding a good transfer?
all teams shoot up for one moment, and trend down literally every other moment they are not adding someone, eh? all teams tend down 99.99 percent of the time.
they may or may not sign another guy that helps. the "trending down" doesn't mean anything
Posted on 4/17/25 at 1:50 pm to jamarr
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when you say trending, do you mean trending down the rankings in the sense that all teams are trending down if they are not at that moment adding a good transfer?
Yes, the rankings. I say "trending down" because early in the process LSU was No 1. (which got everyone excited). Then it went to No. 2, then 4, now 8. The point is it is looking like this transfer class will likely be ranked to what that 2022 transfer class was ranked.
The poster I was replying to says you can't really compare this season to that first season because there is not investigation/possibility of sanctions. I'm pointing out that in terms of putting together a roster that season it doesn't appear those "threats" had much of an effect because if you are going to use the same criteria to laud the current signing class (rankings), as the first signing class, then they look relatively equal.
Posted on 4/17/25 at 1:52 pm to tigersbb
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Adam Miller
Currently in the portal, by the way.
Posted on 4/17/25 at 1:57 pm to Alt26
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is it is looking like this transfer class will likely be ranked to what that 2022 transfer class was ranked.
how do you know that? for all you know they sign someone tomorrow.
they are 8th in 24/7. they could finish 2nd or 40th. there is no significance to "trending". if the team that is 7th used to be 36th or they used to be 1st it has no predictive power.
Posted on 4/17/25 at 2:11 pm to jamarr
Seems like you’re desperately trying to use semantics to control narrative. His post is accurate and the language he used is correct, you just don’t like it.
Posted on 4/17/25 at 2:19 pm to Madking
nope. "trending" doesn't mean anything in this context.
a team that is currently ranked high is more likely to finish ranked high than a team currently ranked low.
you would rather be top 5 and "trending down" than 15 and "trending up". because trending doesn't mean anything in this context. there is no "trend" there is your current Rank and the possibility of going either up or down which has no correlation to previous direction of movement.
person called "madking", I know you wont make a counterpoint, you will start with fairly intense name-calling and your madlibs list of words you say. go ahead I guess, ruin every thread.
a team that is currently ranked high is more likely to finish ranked high than a team currently ranked low.
you would rather be top 5 and "trending down" than 15 and "trending up". because trending doesn't mean anything in this context. there is no "trend" there is your current Rank and the possibility of going either up or down which has no correlation to previous direction of movement.
person called "madking", I know you wont make a counterpoint, you will start with fairly intense name-calling and your madlibs list of words you say. go ahead I guess, ruin every thread.
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