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re: Maybe its good that LSU doesn’t have a competitive in state rival
Posted on 6/26/24 at 9:22 am to ibldprplgld
Posted on 6/26/24 at 9:22 am to ibldprplgld
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Maybe the worst I’ve seen by a coach.
Yeah, it’s a real dick move. It could set TAMU baseball back pretty far. He’s going to be a hated man by many in Texas. He better do well at UT, or he’s really going to be run out of the state.
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Posted on 6/26/24 at 9:26 am to ibldprplgld
I haven't been able to completely wrap my head around the fact that this guy was negotiating with an in state major recruiting opponent, while trying to focus on a national title.
And I haven't heard the backstory about when he said "I left my family to coach here"
And I haven't heard the backstory about when he said "I left my family to coach here"
Posted on 6/26/24 at 9:31 am to Flablete
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This actually did happen in reverse! LSU was looking for a Head Softball Coach and we plucked away legendary Yvette Girouard from ULL!
Their program had so much more history than ours at that time and we stole her away! Their damn field is named after her but most remember her at LSU! Now think about that...it is the all time BIG BROTHER MOVE!
The difference here is that UL Lafayette is not and does not think they are at the same level as LSU, at least where available funds for coaches are concerned. Everyone knew if LSU decided to poach Yvette (or any ULL coach), she would be gone. A&M still thinks they are on equal footing with Texas but they are the only ones who think so.
Posted on 6/26/24 at 9:37 am to Nitrogen
This is a huge advantage for LSU, especially when it comes to the transfer portal these days. The talent level in Louisiana is unbelievable across most sports and some kids develop late or weren’t scouted well.
Basically all other schools in the state are LSU’s farm system these days.
Basically all other schools in the state are LSU’s farm system these days.
Posted on 6/26/24 at 9:37 am to ibldprplgld
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Say what you will about the rivalry between Texas and ATM, but that was a total dick move by Schloss. Maybe the worst I’ve seen by a coach.
Other than his press conference, I'm not sure that's true. I don't know how he could have turned Texas down when they effectively doubled his salary.
I remember a story about Saban telling the Michigan State players he wasn't going to LSU (if memory serves, LSU thought they had another coach lined up but negotiations fell through) when he thought LSU was going another direction, Then abruptly left when the situation changed.
Posted on 6/26/24 at 9:49 am to PensaTigers
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Well yeah, is it a mystery how Georgia has had its football success lately? Was just a matter of time.
It was. They just needed the right coach and were able to take advantage of Georgia Tech being down in just about every sport. They were competing at a pretty high level across the 3 main men's sports in the 90s. But Kirby and the timing helped turn them into a fricking monster.
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Luckily for us, the same is true.
Kinda. The big differences between us and Georgia is 1) population--Georgia is a much bigger state with much, much more in-state football and baseball talent than Louisiana, and 2) geography--not only does Georgia produce a shitload of talent, but they're right there next to both Alabama and Florida. They are situated in just about the perfect place to continue being a monster football program, and will probably be one of the better baseball programs in the country very soon.
But yeah:
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Maybe its good that LSU doesn’t have a competitive in state rival
No shite. It's actually pretty amazing how much relative success both Ole Miss and State have had in football and baseball considering the population of Mississippi and each school's relatively lower ability to compete financially on a year to year basis. I can't imagine what LSU would be if there was another in-state SEC school that had been established for 100 years, splitting the allegiances like they do in Mississippi with State and Ole Miss or Alabama with Bama and Auburn.
Posted on 6/26/24 at 9:57 am to mdomingue
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I don't know how he could have turned Texas down when they effectively doubled his salary.
The dick move is he negotiating it and accepting it (at least informally) while still coaching for a championship.
Posted on 6/26/24 at 10:00 am to Nutriaitch
Tulane was big rival but LSU doesn’t want to play them. I suspect there’s nothing to gain by beating them yet plenty to lose.
Posted on 6/26/24 at 10:24 am to Nomadic Bengal
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Longhorn radio is trying to spin it this morning as the whole thing being about relationships, so that they don't have to face the main point of it being shitty.
Typical UT behavior. They are never in the wrong.
I’m real curious to see how that flies in the SEC.
Posted on 6/26/24 at 10:38 am to paulb52
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Tulane was big rival
LSU is 45-4-2 against Tulane since 1950.
not exactly a "rivalry". and damn sure not "competitive"
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LSU doesn’t want to play them
Tulane wants to be treated as an equal to LSU.
they want a Home and Home series and play their home game at the Dome. And they want the full home allotment of tickets/money.
Why would LSU basically donate all that money to Tulane?
Tulane would never sell out the Dome without it being against an LSU level opponent. So why should LSU not demand a bigger chunk of the pie since they're the team people are actually paying to see?
Here is Tulane's 5 year average in home attendance (article was written before the 2023 season was played
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2018-2022 Attendance Average: 15,080.20
5-Year Filled Stadium Capacity 55.85%
2022 Average Attendance: 21,581
2022 Filled Stadium Capacity 79.93%
in 2023, they averaged 25,000.
which is 5,000 less than listed capacity for Yulman Stadium.
if they can't even consistently fill up their own stadium, noway in hell will LSU let them fill up the dome AND get all of the money for it.
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I suspect there’s nothing to gain by beating them yet plenty to lose
if they want to play LSU, they can get in line with the rest of the in state schools and play them in Baton Rouge when it's their turn.
Because there is zero value to LSU scheduling a home and home with Tulane.
Posted on 6/26/24 at 10:47 am to H-Town Tiger
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The dick move is he negotiating it and accepting it (at least informally) while still coaching for a championship.
Evidently this was a done deal several weeks ago...
Posted on 6/26/24 at 10:57 am to Nitrogen
I have mostly fond (and some not so fond) memories of when Tulane was our main rival.
Posted on 6/26/24 at 11:22 am to Nomadic Bengal
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Longhorn radio is trying to spin it this morning as the whole thing being about relationships, so that they don't have to face the main point of it being shitty
Why should they care one single bit if it's "shitty?"
They are a proud program, who wasn't winning enough. They replaced their head coach and went get one of the best out there. Why should it matter to them that the guy they got happened to be coaching at aTm, or was playing in the post season? That's not their issue.
Posted on 6/26/24 at 11:25 am to texastigger
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Evidently this was a done deal several weeks ago...
Of course it was. He didn't coach a game on Monday, wake up Tuesday and just decide he wanted the Texas job.
The only crappy things done in this situation were:
1- letting Texas leak it when they did
2- his reaction at the post game interview
I don't blame Texas for hiring him one bit, and I don't blame him for taking the job.
This post was edited on 6/26/24 at 11:26 am
Posted on 6/26/24 at 11:43 am to Hold That Tiger 10
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Evidently this was a done deal several weeks ago...
Of course it was. He didn't coach a game on Monday, wake up Tuesday and just decide he wanted the Texas job.
The only crappy things done in this situation were:
1- letting Texas leak it when they did
2- his reaction at the post game interview
I don't blame Texas for hiring him one bit, and I don't blame him for taking the job.
Exactly and I am not sure he had control over #1.
And do people acting like he shouldn't have been negotiating really think he was on the phone negotiating instead of coaching and preparing? He had an agent negotiating based on what he said he wanted and would agree to.
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