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re: Max Johnson is simply a return to the LSU normal
Posted on 11/8/21 at 4:00 pm to yaboidarrell
Posted on 11/8/21 at 4:00 pm to yaboidarrell
It’s amazing how fast y’all have forgotten the Lee, Jefferson, Harris, Jennings eras.
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Posted on 11/8/21 at 4:03 pm to yaboidarrell
Brandon Harris beats Bama.
Posted on 11/8/21 at 4:11 pm to sta4ever
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Man I’d like to smoke whatever y’all are having if you think Etling was a better QB. I agree that MB is better, but he hasn’t been able to play much because of Burrow and injuries, so we’ll really never know. Btw, during the summer I thought MB should be the starter, and everyone on here was shitting on me for saying that, telling me how much better Max is than MB, and how Max was going to win the heisman and all this.
Nah man, give me Etling all damn day. Max’s fundamentals like footwork and pocket presence are absolutely atrocious, which is shocking considering his background as the son of a successful NFL QB. Etling was a solid fundamental QB that also made tons of plays with his feet that Max just doesn’t do.
Only game I really remember Etling letting us down was against Bama in 2017 when he missed a few deep balls that would have given us a shot. Besides that he never looked as bad as Max has this year.
Posted on 11/8/21 at 4:34 pm to yaboidarrell
This is such a ridiculous take
Posted on 11/8/21 at 4:49 pm to yaboidarrell
I’m sure that the kid is trying his best, and Peetz is doing him no favors with the play calling, but I really don’t see Max taking us to an SEC title or beyond. He is serviceable at best and that’s just not good enough.
Posted on 11/8/21 at 5:11 pm to yaboidarrell
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LSU has been the land of meh quarterbacks for decades now.
While this is popular analysis, it is largely wrong.
Louisiana does not produce an overabundance of blue chip QBs - that's true. LSU's record is not particularly outstanding in taking great QB prospects and turning them into All SEC (or better) QBs. That's also true and fair.
Having said that, with a string of relatively conservative (offensively, at least) head coaches (and that is a fair characterization of even Saban's time at LSU), LSU has had elite QBs (either potential or performance) for much of the past 30 years.
Tommy Hodson - 4-year starter, elite QB (4x All SEC) was drafted in the 3rd round of the 1990 NFL draft.
Now, we had kind of a drought in the 1990s (with all due respect to Jesse Daigle, Chad Loup and Jamie Howard), but that wasn't all on the players. Herb Tyler, for example, was not a pro prospect and didn't put up gaudy stats, but was a helluva QB for what we needed at the time. And, needless to say, we had Rohan Davey, Craig Nall and Josh Booty on the roster at the same time (2 Louisiana prospects at that). We had the Championship Matts and in-between we had the #1 overall pick in the NFL draft.
Now, between Flynn and Burrow it was a very mixed bag. Perilloux had everything but judgment. Although blessed by having OBJ and Juice at the same time, Mett gave us an outstanding 2 seasons (would be 2 out of the top 6 if Joe Burrow didn't exist).
Posted on 11/8/21 at 5:27 pm to jbird7
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This. Peetz is 100% the reason for Max’s regression.
To be clear, you saying Peetz is why Max has no clue what the defense is showing him?
Peetz is why Max panics and often runs into sacks?
Peetz is why Max stares down his receiver and is slow to pull the trigger?
Peetz does Max no favors with his play calls but Max is horrible in his own right. We've harped on a lot of bad QB's over the years and Max falls into that category as well.
Max has SO MANY things he does below average as a QB. But I'm sure he'll get drafted and hold a clip board for several years...after all, look who his father is.
Posted on 11/8/21 at 5:39 pm to yaboidarrell
We should hire a coach where we don't ever have to worry about QB play and they aren't afraid to play the backup, because he is also highly talented.
Posted on 11/8/21 at 6:11 pm to yaboidarrell
You really are a dumbshit mfer. Johnson is a sophomore....or freshman if you wast because last year did not affect eligibility. He is 12th in the nation with 22 TD And 30 th in yards. His completion percentage could be a bit higher but he is throwing to mostly other true freshmen. He needs to develop more....but we are LSU fans , we demand a QB that is out of the womb outstanding.....I mean, if Bama can have one we deserve the same, dammit
Posted on 11/8/21 at 6:14 pm to bayou85
mehhhhh....hes about as good as he'll be. sorry Brad.
Posted on 11/8/21 at 6:47 pm to sta4ever
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Max is the second best QB we’ve had since Mett
No he isn’t. He’s no better than Lee/Jefferson and might actually be worse b
Posted on 11/8/21 at 7:07 pm to bayou85
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he's a sophomore dumbarse. Quit acting like he is as good as he will ever be.
We've wasted two years. One with Max this year. We don't have time for him to grow up.
Posted on 11/8/21 at 7:18 pm to Madking
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Madking
You are comparing a Junior/Senior Etling to a Freshman/Sophomore Johnson. That's not real fair, or objective.
Post Etling's Freshman and Sophomore year stats.
This post was edited on 11/8/21 at 7:20 pm
Posted on 11/8/21 at 7:26 pm to yaboidarrell
Borrow was only good for one year
He was really really good that year tho
He was really really good that year tho
Posted on 11/8/21 at 7:35 pm to ellis197575
I agree the offensive coordinator is to blame for the way max is playing. Why would you roll a left handed QB to the right side to have him throw off balance. Multiple times. How many hits did max take in that game. Burrow took an arse whipping in ‘18 and didn’t look real good either. When he finally got some protection he looked great. Max is young . If our line can protect max he will look quite a bit better.
Posted on 11/8/21 at 7:46 pm to unctiger4
Well no shite. LSU is a pass happy organization now. Back then, it was we are too afraid to take chances. Now all we do is take chances. We always wanted to limit the QBs mistakes back then, now we don’t give a shite about that. Etling is not as good as Max. You guys have been waiting all damn year to jump on Max’s shite. What QB has ever had a good game against Bama, besides Burrow and Mett?
Posted on 11/8/21 at 7:50 pm to memphis tiger
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No he isn’t. He’s no better than Lee/Jefferson and might actually be worse b
Holy cow I can’t believe how dumb some of you are. Lee, Jefferson, Jennings, and Harris all sucked major arse. Etling was ok but we never opened up our offense. We were always too scared to throw the ball back then, in order to limit the QBs mistakes. Max is light years ahead of all of the QB’s I just mentioned.
Most of you guys just have no idea what you’re talking about, and looking at the wrong things when determining who the better QB is. Nuss hasn’t really looked that great when he plays, and against what competition? Everyone was sucking Max’s dick at the end of last season, and this summer, and now look at all of you. You guys obviously have no idea what you’re talking about.
Posted on 11/8/21 at 8:07 pm to lsufball19
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Etling played in a system built around power running and still averaged more yards per attempt, had an equivalent completion percentage, had a better TD:INT ratio (16:2), and a higher QB rating.
Huh? Are you including his Purdue stats?
Etling career - 37 games. 57.9% comp. 7076 yds. 7.3 yds/att. 43 TDs. 19 INTs. 129.6 rating.
Johnson career - 15 games. 59.6% comp. 3237 yds. 7.3 yds/att. 30 TDs. 7 INTs. 139.7 rating.
Etling gets a pass for his first 2 years of college? In a weaker conference?
Posted on 11/8/21 at 8:30 pm to Cs
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Max has a horrible arm and is grossly inaccurate.
Joe Burrow's first season at LSU (13 games) - 57.8% comp. 133.2 rating. 2894 yds. 16 TDs. 5 INTs.
Max Johnson career to-date (15 games). 59.6% comp. 139.7 rating. 30 TDs. 7 INTs.
We should run MJ off. He's clearly not good. Right?
Posted on 11/8/21 at 8:47 pm to cheeznet
Moving goalpost and a straw man in the same post. According to your logic Max Johnson is way better than Joe Burrow.
This post was edited on 11/8/21 at 8:59 pm
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