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re: Matt Trent on WW
Posted on 2/7/22 at 3:49 pm to EagleCoach19
Posted on 2/7/22 at 3:49 pm to EagleCoach19
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EagleCoach19
Hey Matt
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Posted on 2/7/22 at 4:05 pm to ellessuuuu
Please update your post to reflect his recruiting rankings NATIONALLY during his tenure.
For the record, I don't care about conference wins (except for their significance to NCAA tournament seeding) or conference titles. Basketball success is measured in the postseason (and not by just making it into the field).
Maybe my standards are just higher.
For the record, I don't care about conference wins (except for their significance to NCAA tournament seeding) or conference titles. Basketball success is measured in the postseason (and not by just making it into the field).
Maybe my standards are just higher.
Posted on 2/7/22 at 4:42 pm to tygerphan
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Maybe my standards are just higher.
Or maybe you have no idea what you are talking about.
SEC standings are a great measure because you play the same group of teams each season. It’s important to improve your conference record. It shows you are improving and if helps you get in the tourney and get a better seed the better you do.
Posted on 2/7/22 at 4:49 pm to tygerphan
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Please update your post to reflect his recruiting rankings NATIONALLY during his tenure.
For the record, I don't care about conference wins (except for their significance to NCAA tournament seeding) or conference titles. Basketball success is measured in the postseason (and not by just making it into the field).
Maybe my standards are just higher.
Yeah, the 13 teams you play every year are the measuring stick, especially when the SEC was in the top 4 conferences in the country during that stretch.
You win the SEC, you are competing for top 4 seeds and competing in the second weekend of the tournament.
Your standards aren't higher, your understanding of how you measures those standards is off.
Posted on 2/7/22 at 4:53 pm to tygerphan
“Basketball success is measured in the postseason (and not by just making it into the field). “
This is the exact opposite of reality. The tournament is very unpredictable and while winning it catapults you into historic recognition it’s not the standard of success. Guys like Bob Huggins, Rick Barnes, Bruce Pearl, Mark Few, Ben Howland and on and on are elite and likely future HOF coaches but have 0 titles between them despite well over 100 years combined coaching experience at upper level schools. Wade is in year 5.
This is the exact opposite of reality. The tournament is very unpredictable and while winning it catapults you into historic recognition it’s not the standard of success. Guys like Bob Huggins, Rick Barnes, Bruce Pearl, Mark Few, Ben Howland and on and on are elite and likely future HOF coaches but have 0 titles between them despite well over 100 years combined coaching experience at upper level schools. Wade is in year 5.
Posted on 2/7/22 at 4:54 pm to doubleb
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SEC standings are a great measure
Okay. Since 2018-2019, including this year, LSU has had fewer conference wins each season than the year before.
Things are looking up!
Posted on 2/7/22 at 5:10 pm to Madking
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, Rick Barnes, Bruce Pearl, Mark Few, Ben Howland
Mark Few has been to the Sweet 16 every season since 2015 including 4 elite 8s and 2 FFs. Please do not compare Wade to Mark Few or anyone else on this list.
Where did my comment reference winning a title as the measure of success?
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Wade is in year 5.
Why dont you count his time at VCU? I understand it helps the narrative but it's just inaccurate.
Posted on 2/7/22 at 5:12 pm to tygerphan
Speaking of constructed narratives your first comment is a double standard with no context which I even provided for you yet you ignored. Your second is just dumb, you think he should’ve been winning titles at VCU?
This post was edited on 2/7/22 at 5:13 pm
Posted on 2/7/22 at 5:24 pm to S
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The biggest fallout of the pinson injury for me is we lose the trump card of bringing Gaines and Eason in after the first timeout.
I'd also make the point that Pinson is missed on defense more than anyone seems to recognize. Along with your point of EG coming in fresh and crazed, a healthy Pinson gives you a better quick/long defender that closes on the 3pt line after switches better than anyone on the team.
So, a major part of (not only) your defense goes "poof" and just like in all team sports, one individual's condition affects the entire team's situation.
Posted on 2/7/22 at 5:28 pm to The First Cut
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Was that an excuse for the football team? Of course not
Sorry. I forgot football and Basketball have a roster that is the same size.... I mean, you've said some of the dumbest shite all season, that reading comments like this from you doesn't surprise me anymore.
This post was edited on 2/7/22 at 5:32 pm
Posted on 2/7/22 at 5:42 pm to Madking
No. I'm saying 3 years as a HC at VCU plus 5 years as a HC at LSU = 8 years total.
So your narrative that he's only been a HC for 5 seasons is, as explained above, inaccurate.
So your narrative that he's only been a HC for 5 seasons is, as explained above, inaccurate.
Posted on 2/7/22 at 5:48 pm to tygerphan
That’s a straw man and dishonest. When I referenced the other coaches I specifically included that I meant their time at “upper level programs”. You just ignored that because of course that goes against your narrative and double standards.
Posted on 2/7/22 at 5:56 pm to ellessuuuu
Takes a lot of players for football. Not so much in basketball. Wade has recruited well and has all his players. 5 stars. How much time is enough or are we good with this because it’s better than the past?
Also O did give us the 2 worst seasons in 20 years, but also the best one in over 100 years of LSU football. Not defending O but tired of the better than before excuse. Again, how long is long enough?
Also O did give us the 2 worst seasons in 20 years, but also the best one in over 100 years of LSU football. Not defending O but tired of the better than before excuse. Again, how long is long enough?
Posted on 2/7/22 at 6:00 pm to Pop
Now compare the amount of 5 stars we have to the perineal powers in college basketball. Right now we’re at about a quarter of what those teams pull talent wise. Next season will be the second time we have multiple 5* players coming in, the last time that happened we won the SEC and made the sweet 16 even though our shitty AD didn’t allow Wade to coach the tourney which could’ve gotten us further.
Posted on 2/7/22 at 6:06 pm to EagleCoach19
What a condescending douchebag Matt Trent is.
Even if some of what he says is true, his delivery makes me want to punch him in the face.
Even if some of what he says is true, his delivery makes me want to punch him in the face.
Posted on 2/7/22 at 6:12 pm to Madking
So, are we happy where we are? If not, what should the expectation be and how long before that should happen? Really curious to know that thought process.
Posted on 2/7/22 at 6:38 pm to Pop
We’ll that’s a deflection but the fact is we’re in the middle of the best 5 year stretch in 30 years at LSU. Wade has the highest winning percentage all time here, has qualified for the post season every year, has never lost a first round NCAA tournament game, has an SEC title, a tournament title game appearance, the most wins of any SEC coach over the last 3 years and continues to recruit at a much higher level than we’ve seen here since Browns best classes. You guys don’t pay attention to other programs and coaches and don’t realize that nearly all of them have .500 or below seasons yet you want Wade gone when that’s never happened to him. If 16-7 is the floor nobody should be complaining about the state of the program.
Posted on 2/7/22 at 6:46 pm to Pop
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So, are we happy where we are?
With this team at this point? No. But I'm also not going to call the season failure until it's actually over. With the overall state of the program? Yes, I am happy.
Posted on 2/7/22 at 6:58 pm to Jrv2damac
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Did anyone outside of the fringes of this forum expect LSU to be elite or win the conference this year?
Plenty of people on here did.
Posted on 2/7/22 at 7:02 pm to Madking
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in year 5
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at "upper level programs"
Okay...
Huggins made his first FF in year 4 at Cincy and the Elite 8 in year 5.
Howland had Pitt (his first upper level job) in back to back Sweet 16s in years 4 and 5 before going to UCLA where he made 3 consecutive FFs in his fist 6 seasons.
Pearl had Tennessee (his first upper level job) in the Sweet 16 by year 2, again in year 3 and in the Elite 8 in year 5. Also took Milwaukee to the Sweet 16 in year 5 there.
Mark Few got his first (and only) HC job at Gonzaga at 37. Went to 3 Sweet 16s in his first 6 years and has been to 7 more (and 2 FFs) since.
Barnes has been to one FF in 40+ years and has been to the tournament most years at Texas and Tennessee. I don't know if he's HOF but if you think differently I can see why you trust Wade.
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