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re: Matt Canada leading Candidate for Maryland OC

Posted on 1/22/18 at 12:58 pm to
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 1/22/18 at 12:58 pm to
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If Canada didn't have a leg to stand on then they could've fired him without giving him a dime, right? Seems like they're protecting themselves from something.



If he did have a leg to stand on why did he settle for half of his buyout?

Seems like both sides were willing to meet halfway to avoid negative press
Posted by Tiger Tracker
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Posted on 1/22/18 at 1:01 pm to
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If they did that they would be admitting that there was just cause to get rid of him.


This does not equal this...

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Admitting that means they lose the meddling O angle that cost LSU the Troy loss.


Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 1/22/18 at 1:01 pm to
Give me one reason Canada would accept half of his owed 3.4 million buyout...one that makes any sense
Posted by Mo Jeaux
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Posted on 1/22/18 at 1:05 pm to
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Aren’t you a lawyer



Yes. Seems like LSU isn't adverse to fighting it out in court if they have a solid argument. Look at the Chief fiasco.

My suspicion is that despite what many of you O sycophants would like to believe, LSU didn't have some sure fire reason to effect a termination with cause.
Posted by Tiger Tracker
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Posted on 1/22/18 at 1:09 pm to
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My suspicion is that despite what many of you O sycophants would like to believe, LSU didn't have some sure fire reason to effect a termination with cause.


Exactly. The way i understand it is that if Canada would have taken the full amount or fought for it he would have received a bigger buyout potentially, but that is assuming that he didn't coach anywhere else because i believe his buyout was offset by any other job he would get. This way he gets half that buyout and a new salary. Lsu gets to part ways with someone the coach can't get along with.
Posted by Tiger Tracker
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Posted on 1/22/18 at 1:11 pm to
See my post above this one.

Eta: this article explains the buyouts a little better and why the deal went down like it did.

LINK
This post was edited on 1/22/18 at 1:13 pm
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 1/22/18 at 1:22 pm to
LSU owed him 3.4 million and had he been hired for 2.5 million the next 2 years LSU would only be on the hook for 900k. So please tell me why a guy wouldn’t take the guaranteed 3.4 million?
Posted by rbdallas
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Posted on 1/22/18 at 1:24 pm to
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The way i understand it is that if Canada would have taken the full amount or fought for it he would have received a bigger buyout potentially, but that is assuming that he didn't coach anywhere else because i believe his buyout was offset by any other job he would get. This way he gets half that buyout and a new salary. Lsu gets to part ways with someone the coach can't get along with.


this makes sense and also makes me wonder as to what feelers Canada may have been getting from schools (possibly even Maryland) that he played it this way
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 1/22/18 at 1:27 pm to
have the greatest job in America. I say it all the time,” he said. “I call plays, I coach football. We have great players and great kids on our football team. I feel really, really good about that.”

Canada quote in the article...he didn’t say O meddled with his offense and he said he had the greatest job in America. This should stop the O is an idiot and impossible to work for narrative right??? No just like the other quotes are coaches speak so is this one y’all need to quit cherry picking quotes that fit your narrative
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 1/22/18 at 1:30 pm to
Maryland is a pretty big step backward.
Posted by RainMan21
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Posted on 1/22/18 at 1:32 pm to
Geez why so many down votes? I was just posing a question, wasn't bashing him or O. I just didn't understand the situation, I thought I was missing something about Canada. I thought he was a more sought after guy. But it makes since that most other larger programs are already set.
Posted by justice
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Posted on 1/22/18 at 1:35 pm to
Hopefully Maryland’s coach will listen to him and allow him to play the qb that he thinks will be most effective in his offense. I also hope Maryland’s coach won’t lie to Canada and say the offense is all his then try to take it over as the season goes on. Good luck Canada. At least you don’t have to work with a head coach you are more qualified then.
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 1/22/18 at 1:35 pm to
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My suspicion is that despite what many of you O sycophants would like to believe, LSU didn't have some sure fire reason to effect a termination with cause.


And you would let your client settle for half of what he owed?
Posted by Tiger Tracker
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Posted on 1/22/18 at 1:36 pm to
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Topwater Trout


Did it ever cross your mind that the situation was just as miserable for Canada as O? If Canada waited it out, there's a chance he is stuck at LSU where he is not wanted. It really seems like the most likely scenario here is that it was a mutual parting of ways where neither side wanted to be involved with the other any longer and to keep the relationship going would be toxic to both. Therefore they split the difference, and both parties walked away clean.
Posted by rbdallas
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 1/22/18 at 1:36 pm to
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LSU owed him 3.4 million and had he been hired for 2.5 million the next 2 years LSU would only be on the hook for 900k. So please tell me why a guy wouldn’t take the guaranteed 3.4 million?


what if, there was SOME CAUSE that would have mitigated that amount to let's say "less than the $ 3.4MM (assuming that's correct)...and
what if, he had an idea that another school was seriously interested and he could then get the amount he got + the other schools $$$

also, peculiar is that the school calling is in the same area as most of the schools he has worked for .. leads me to believe that he had been in contact with someone.

and decided as the above post to combine both amounts ???


and as Tiger Tracker said.. things may have bad for both..it's logical
This post was edited on 1/22/18 at 1:42 pm
Posted by Tiger Tracker
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Posted on 1/22/18 at 1:37 pm to
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No just like the other quotes are coaches speak so is this one y’all need to quit cherry picking quotes that fit your narrative


What quotes am i cherry picking here?
Posted by BayouCowboy
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Posted on 1/22/18 at 1:39 pm to
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Geez why so many down votes? I was just posing a question, wasn't bashing him or O. I just didn't understand the situation, I thought I was missing something about Canada. I thought he was a more sought after guy. But it makes since that most other larger programs are already set

I think there are multiple factors. Biggest is there just aren't a lot of high profile OC jobs that opened when he was free to interview. Also, despite his buy out I would imagine Canada is wanting a substantial salary beyond what these few schools are willing to offer. Lastly, none of these schools likely see him sticking long so they may not agree on length of contract or exit clauses. Knowing Canada wants to be a HC may scare OC suitors away. Just my speculation.
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 1/22/18 at 1:44 pm to
Maybe not you but quotes from that article have been posted several times as proof Canada wanted to stay. All the O haters use that as evidence the parting wasn’t mutual. The irony is they also say no one wants to work with O get the guy they use for example said nothing to support their theories...so basically that article disputes everything they say.
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 1/22/18 at 1:47 pm to
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and as Tiger Tracker said.. things may have bad for both..it's logical



This has been my position the entire time. The O haters are the one that are pinning all the blame on O and logic simply doesn’t support that
Posted by Tiger Tracker
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Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 1/22/18 at 2:06 pm to
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This has been my position the entire time. The O haters are the one that are pinning all the blame on O and logic simply doesn’t support that


Just to clarify, i didn't get that from you when discussing here. It seemed like you were saying Canada was guilty of something since he didn't take his full buyout.

If you think it was a mutual parting of ways though then we are on the same page here.
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