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re: Matt Canada leading Candidate for Maryland OC

Posted on 1/22/18 at 3:17 pm to
Posted by tigertex1992
Houston
Member since Apr 2014
1863 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 3:17 pm to
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Canada would have never walked away from $1.7m if he had done nothing wrong that would have justified him and this reduction.


So why did LSU pay him anything if they didn't have to??. Why does anyone ever settle out of court? Because the trial will do more harm to their reputations than its worth. Because one in the hand is worth more than two in the bush. Etc etc...
Posted by Le Tenia
Member since Feb 2015
4965 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 3:20 pm to
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Also, the players and coaching staff all said that the offense was altered by O before Troy. So I am not sure how you think this didn't happen.


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Orgeron said Monday he asked Canada last week to reduce the number of pre-snap motions and shifts to make things easier the two true freshmen offensive line starters against Troy
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"That's one of the reasons I wanted to quit shift and motion, be more physical at the point of attack," Orgeron said.

The result: zero first-half points.

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"We tried to resort back to some old, old playing styles we kind of did," LSU tight end Foster Moreau said Saturday about the first-half play. "Just play some smash mouth LSU football, which I know all of our teammates, we love to do that. That wasn't working. So we just sort of resorted back to the motions and the shifts, kind of got things going, got some momentum."


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LSU reverted back to using frequent motions and shifts for the second half and scored three touchdowns. The Tigers could have scored more were it not for three turnovers among the four other possessions in the second half.


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Also, the players and coaching staff all said that the offense was altered by O before Troy.


Posted by Le Tenia
Member since Feb 2015
4965 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 3:26 pm to
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So why did LSU pay him anything if they didn't have to??


I never said that LSU didn't owe him "anything" I said that they owed him $3.4m. They paid the discount. This is not hard to understand. LSU won. They got rid of him and did it at a discount.

Reading comprehension falls short for most mouth breathers.

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Why does anyone ever settle out of court? Because the trial will do more harm to their reputations than its worth.


So answer my question. Why does he walk away from $1.7m if he has done nothing wrong??
This post was edited on 1/22/18 at 3:30 pm
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 3:29 pm to
We traded him for a guy that last ran his own offense 20 years ago and was 90th in the country.

The year after he was fired the same team was 44th.
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
13091 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 3:35 pm to
Lets see, Canada got 1.7 mil cash without having to wait and get payment over time?
and more importantly, the payment is not subject to reduction when he takes a new job.
For an OC of Canada's age, now is the time to make hay and he cannot afford to spend a couple of years out of the business.
Looks to me like Canada got by far the better part of the deal with LSU, b/c LSU had no cause to terminate him.
Posted by Le Tenia
Member since Feb 2015
4965 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 3:41 pm to
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Why would they pay him a dime if they fired him with cause? He doesn't have a say in negotiating any kind of settlement at all if they have cause.


I've already said this 19 times. Pay a frickin' attention.

If they did not fire him, he would still be employed. Yes or no? He did not quit. If he quit, he wouldn't get anything. He has a 2 year deal left which LSU is breaking. He has plenty say.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
63600 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 3:46 pm to
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If they did not fire him, he would still be employed. Yes or no?


Not if they decided to mutually separate.
Posted by Tiger Tracker
Austin,TX
Member since Nov 2015
7266 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 3:47 pm to
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Ok. What ever you say???


It's not what I say. It's what the legal documents say.

LINK

LINK

Now find me one legal document that says Matt Canada was fired.
Posted by Le Tenia
Member since Feb 2015
4965 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 3:52 pm to
The dude got fired. twist words how ever you want.

Do you want to be fired or do you want to resign? Those were the options. And Canada elected to resign and get half instead of get fired and demand all of it.

WTF is so hard to understand about this. You fricks are a trip!
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33963 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 3:53 pm to
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If they did not fire him, he would still be employed. Yes or no? He did not quit. If he quit, he wouldn't get anything. He has a 2 year deal left which LSU is breaking. He has plenty say.


But you're the one that said they had cause to fire him.
Posted by Le Tenia
Member since Feb 2015
4965 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 3:59 pm to
Give me a fricking break...a separation agreement is them firing him you f'n idiot.

Employers fire an employee and give them separation agreement to prevent the employee from having any recourse in a potential lawsuit down the road.

You apparently like to look shite up. Look up employer separation agreements. Report your findings.
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
13091 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 4:01 pm to
Lots of people in here do not understand contracts,
Canada agreed to forego the final two years of his contract (and was relieved of any obligations to provide his services) in exchange for 1.7 mil cash.
If LSU had cause, it would have terminated him (at the Troy game, if appropriate) without further obligation.
Orgeron screwed this up and LSU was left with few options. Canada smartly took a cash sum that would not be reduced by his new salary when he took a new job as OC.
Posted by Le Tenia
Member since Feb 2015
4965 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 4:01 pm to
I said that they wanted to fire him. They had reason to fire him. And yes, I'm sure that there is some cause.

Try to twist all you want. He got canned. End of story. he got half of what he was owed.
Posted by Tiger Tracker
Austin,TX
Member since Nov 2015
7266 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 4:02 pm to
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Do you want to be fired or do you want to resign? Those were the options


You like to request links and proof, but provide none for your side of the argument. Got anything that confirms your statement, or is this just what you believe happened?

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WTF is so hard to understand about this.


Well it's a little confusing when you say 1) canada was fired when he was not and 2) lsu had cause to fire him yet elected to pay him over a million and a half dollars instead. And 3) you have provided zero links or evidence that corroborate your theory. Instead you say everyone else is dumb for not believing something you provided zero evidence of.

Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
89127 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 4:03 pm to
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End of story. he got half of what he was owed.


But that amount won't be reduced by any money he makes moving forward. LSU will likely end up losing on this transaction, and people like you are acting like it was some win for LSU.
Posted by Le Tenia
Member since Feb 2015
4965 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 4:04 pm to
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Lots of people in here do not understand contracts,


Exactly. I do contracts all day long.

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Canada agreed to forego the final two years of his contract (and was relieved of any obligations to provide his services) in exchange for 1.7 mil cash.
If LSU had cause, it would have terminated him (at the Troy game, if appropriate) without further obligation.
Orgeron screwed this up and LSU was left with few options. Canada smartly took a cash sum that would not be reduced by his new salary when he took a new job as OC.



Spin. Canada walked away with only half of what he is owed because he didn't want the headache? That is what you are saying.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
89127 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 4:05 pm to
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quote:

Lots of people in here do not understand contracts,



Exactly. I do contracts all day long.


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Canada agreed to forego the final two years of his contract (and was relieved of any obligations to provide his services) in exchange for 1.7 mil cash.
If LSU had cause, it would have terminated him (at the Troy game, if appropriate) without further obligation.
Orgeron screwed this up and LSU was left with few options. Canada smartly took a cash sum that would not be reduced by his new salary when he took a new job as OC.



Spin. Canada walked away with only half of what he is owed because he didn't want the headache? That is what you are saying.


I hope you do contracts only as a hobby, because you look like a fool in this thread.
Posted by Le Tenia
Member since Feb 2015
4965 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 4:06 pm to
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But that amount won't be reduced by any money he makes moving forward. LSU will likely end up losing on this transaction, and people like you are acting like it was some win for LSU.


Spin it, mouth breathers!!

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LNCHBOX


LSU won, lil buddy. They got rid of the cancer and only paid half. That is a win.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
89127 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 4:06 pm to
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LSU won, lil buddy. They got rid of the cancer and only paid half. That is a win.


You still don't get it. Maybe it will click at some point.
Posted by Le Tenia
Member since Feb 2015
4965 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 4:07 pm to
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I hope you do contracts only as a hobby, because you look like a fool in this thread.


Yeah, I do.
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