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re: Matt Canada leading Candidate for Maryland OC

Posted on 1/22/18 at 11:23 am to
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
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Posted on 1/22/18 at 11:23 am to
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The things people believe


Belief is stronger than fact for many, many people.
Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 1/22/18 at 11:23 am to
Yea, I know Maryland is a P5. I didn't say otherwise. Just said most P5 schools have all of their staff filled already, which is true.
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 1/22/18 at 11:23 am to
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Because Canada specifically stated he wanted to return next year. It was not mutual. If my job offered me money not to work I’d take it too.



You must think Canada is a huge moron right? Why else would a guy that has a buyout for 3.4 million take half? Please show me one coach that has ever told the media frick this place I couldn’t get along with the HC and he is firing me before they parted ways. It doesn’t happen.
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
16446 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 11:24 am to
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What happened at Illinois? I thought he was getting that job

From SEC Country:

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Instead, schools such as Illinois and UTSA have looked elsewhere to hire coordinators in the time since his divorce from LSU became official. There’s a chance Canada isn’t moving aggressively for a new gig since he just came into $1 million the easy way, but the lack of demand feels telling.

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Posted by OLDBEACHCOMBER
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/22/18 at 11:44 am to
I think O got rid of Canada because he didn't understand the offense well enough to meddle more.

O is like Trump, talking out loud what he should be mulling around his head. Like he maybe should have that talked over simplifying the offense because of the Offensive line injuries with Canada to his face instead of blurting it out in a post game presser to pin the arse whopping dished out by Miss St. on someone other than himself.
Posted by Chimlim
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2005
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Posted on 1/22/18 at 11:52 am to
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Why else would a guy that has a buyout for 3.4 million take half?


Maybe because the head coach made it clear he didn't want him around, even though Canada wanted to come back.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33873 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 12:09 pm to
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You must think Canada is a huge moron right? Why else would a guy that has a buyout for 3.4 million take half? Please show me one coach that has ever told the media frick this place I couldn’t get along with the HC and he is firing me before they parted ways. It doesn’t happen


I mean I just showed you a quote where Orgeron basically said it was his decision to move on from Canada. If Orgeron says it was his decision why should we believe otherwise?

I think they just agreed on the negotiated buyout to be tied to the non-disclosure agreement.
This post was edited on 1/22/18 at 12:16 pm
Posted by Le Tenia
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 1/22/18 at 12:12 pm to
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Maybe because the head coach made it clear he didn't want him around, even though Canada wanted to come back.


That makes no sense. Post less.
Posted by Le Tenia
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 1/22/18 at 12:18 pm to
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I think they just agreed on the negotiated buyout to be tied to the non-disclosure agreement.


You don't really believe that but you can't admit that him walking away from his deal with less than his guarantee says everything that needs to be said. It says everything. He would not leave money on the table and was trying hard to keep his spot here.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33873 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 12:20 pm to
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You don't really believe that but you can't admit that him walking away from his deal with less than his guarantee says everything that needs to be said. It says everything. He would not leave money on the table and was trying hard to keep his spot here.


I don't think we'll ever know exactly what happened or why he agreed to negotiated buyout, but if Orgeron says it was his decision to move on from Canada then I'll believe him. No reason not to.
This post was edited on 1/22/18 at 12:21 pm
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 1/22/18 at 12:32 pm to
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non-disclosure agreement.


Yeh you just showed me Os quote. Now what else would O say with the ND agreement in place? Neither party is going to talk bad about the other. Idk why some of you can’t geasp the concept people will not spill the beans and talk bad about the other party when ND agreements are in place. Can you really not put 2 and 2 together?
Posted by Le Tenia
Member since Feb 2015
4952 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 12:34 pm to
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if Orgeron says it was his decision to move on from Canada then I'll believe him. No reason not to


Canada was terminated...of course it was O's decision.


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I don't think we'll ever know exactly what happened or why he agreed to negotiated buyout


You only walk away from a money on the table from a job you were fired is if you don't have a leg to stand on. Rather than fight us, take this and walk away. Good luck to you and your family.
Posted by rbdallas
Dallas, TX
Member since Nov 2007
10344 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 12:37 pm to
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Shifty, if Canada accepts the job at Maryland, it will be his 7th OC job at as many schools since 2010. He is obviously a head case that doesn't get fit in anywhere or get along with anyone. That instability screams that he is fricking toxic.


I have been saying that "something" is wrong ...
no one switches that often and the schools he switches from...do not fight to keep him ???

and to the idiots that a HC has not right to get into the Offense ... totally stupid.
an HC has a right, actually a due diligence to be involved.


Posted by Le Tenia
Member since Feb 2015
4952 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 12:37 pm to
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Can you really not put 2 and 2 together?


If they did that they would be admitting that there was just cause to get rid of him. Admitting that means they lose the meddling O angle that cost LSU the Troy loss.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62286 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 12:40 pm to
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would be admitting that there was just cause to get rid of him.


So why negotiate with him?
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
69451 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 12:45 pm to
Oh I know but it’s just funny they would rather look stupid than have some common sense
This post was edited on 1/22/18 at 12:46 pm
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
69451 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 12:46 pm to
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So why negotiate with him?


Aren’t you a lawyer
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33873 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 12:47 pm to
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You only walk away from a money on the table from a job you were fired is if you don't have a leg to stand on.


If Canada didn't have a leg to stand on then they could've fired him without giving him a dime, right? Seems like they're protecting themselves from something.
This post was edited on 1/22/18 at 12:50 pm
Posted by Chimlim
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2005
17772 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 12:56 pm to
Canada specifically stated he wanted to stay at LSU.

It was even linked in this thread earlier where Orgeron is the one who wanted to move in a different direction.

It was O's decision to part ways with Canada and pay him to leave. I don't know how this is so difficult to grasp.
Posted by Tiger Tracker
Austin,TX
Member since Nov 2015
7266 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 12:57 pm to
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and to the idiots that a HC has not right to get into the Offense ... totally stupid.


Except when you hire a coordinator in the basis he could run the offense his way and then don't let him. Especially when you sold the fan base, admins, and coaching staff that you would "let your coaches coach". Also, when you have little to no experience running an offense, it's a little ridiculous to try and tell someone who has a ran a top 10 offense how to do it.

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an HC has a right, actually a due diligence to be involved. 


Maybe if O would have done due diligence when hiring him we wouldn't be paying him to go away.

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