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Posted on 3/23/18 at 1:54 pm to Tiger Ree
Lol
Posted on 3/23/18 at 1:57 pm to DBU
I would like this to be true, but I will believe it when I see it.
Posted on 3/23/18 at 2:00 pm to TigerLunatik
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Just because one guy couldn't do something doesn't mean a current guy can't. That's just silly.
That post is what cued you to respond?
Not all of the posters saying after past years they will "believe it when they see it"?
Like nothing has changed at LSU the last couple years.
LSU wss running jet sweeps last season. The leading rushers most games were the receivers.
But the brain dead don't believe any change will happen this year !!! It's hilarious.
Posted on 3/23/18 at 2:04 pm to TigerLunatik
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Ryan Clark on NFL Live talking about how Josh Booty was one of the best QBs he's ever seen in practice and 7 on 7 scrimmages. Says he still hasn't seen one throw a prettier ball and how excited he was all during fall camp. Next statement was "get to the game and have people flying at him and in front of him and he threw the ball to the other team regularly."
Yep.
You can do everything right in preparing a guy and it can still go sideways if the guy's nerves are shot or he has stage fright.
Those are first world problems though. We have a third world offense right now.
Posted on 3/23/18 at 2:12 pm to semjase
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Doesn't matter if he doesn't start recruiting Bama quality OL's. That's all that matters.
Ever heard of 5-star LSU commit Kardell Thomas?
Ever heard of 5-star recruit Kenyon Green. He was once committed to LSU. He just went to LSU for an unofficial visit. He spent THREE DAYS there including his BIRTHDAY.
His dad on the visit:
5-star tackle Kenyon Green ‘still very much in love’ with LSU
"Even after de-committing from LSU three months ago, the nation’s No. 2-ranked tackle has kept the Tigers in the fray.
That was made evident by Kenyon Green and his entire family spending a three-day unofficial visit in Baton Rouge. Green, along with his parents and sister, took in LSU’s second spring practice session on Tuesday, toured campus on Wednesday and celebrated his 17th birthday on Thursday eating gumbo, fried fish and shrimp with the entire coaching staff looking out onto Tiger Stadium."
“We made the plan to be down there before his birthday, but because we made a promise to Coach O [Ed Orgeron], we came and started a relationship with Coach [James] Cregg. Kenyon respects Coach O and the whole staff. We had a phenomenal time. My wife loved the school. I love the school and my daughter was loving it. It was a great experience to get down there and that was a driving factor.”
“It went great,” Kenyon Green told SEC Country. “I had a chance to get to know Coach Cregg and get a better feel for him. I was impressed by the way he coaches and how he interacted with his players. It’s the same stuff that he was dong when he was coaching in the NFL.”
Recruit like that?
Posted on 3/23/18 at 2:23 pm to LSUgrad08112
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His high level of success regarding WR’s does nothing to contradict this.
Even the fact that he is the "passing-game coordinator"??? WOW !!!
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And let me get this straight: are you saying that Sullivan, a guy who is not an OC by trade, was brought in by Carroll to teach him how to be an offensive coordinator or passing game coordinator?
I don't know what his clinic covered for the Seahawks. I only know he taught one.
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Do you honestly believe that a guy who’s a literal authority on coaching WR’s was brought in to do anything other than help Seattle’s WR coach?
Do you honestly consider it a BAD THING even if that IS ALL he was brought in for?
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I’m just trying to figure out exactly how fricking stupid you are here.
Not nearly as stupid as you are. And that's just based on the above idiotic quotes in this post.
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I know, I’m completely fricking crazy for thinking that someone who’s last job had virtually no similarities to being a college co-OC might not work out.
Yeah, it's a known fact that it NEVER works out when an NFL coach moves to coach at the college level. And it works EVERYTIME a college coach goes to the pros. Saban was an amazing success story for the Dolphins.
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10 years of coaching wide receivers makes one fully qualified to do literally anything in college football to the highest degree
Again, Sullivan is the "passing-game coordinator". I don't think you understand the premise.
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Gosh Derek, you’re so smart. But then again I can completely understand why a fat loser who can’t run a 40 yard dash without busting his arse and had to forge a riverboat captain’s license to get a job then backed into some crappy PR job under Ed Orgeron would be bewildered at the notion that one should be successful in the past to deserve a shot at their job. You suck at your job too, FYI. You’re actually doing more to hurt the perception of the program with these idiotic threads that lead to people flaming our program than helping it.
And you insinuated that I was stupid !!!
You have totally lost it. Freaking Looney Tunes.
Posted on 3/23/18 at 2:28 pm to timlan2057
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He had those scrub second-rate running backs Leonard Fournette and Derrius Guice. No wonder we got shut out!
Yeah the scrub LF couldn't even block the D-linemen that held him to 32 yards. What a wimp. If you can't block while you are running the ball maybe you shouldn't be running. He was letting defenders tackle him sometimes before taking a full step after getting the handoff.
LSU has not improved at all on the O-line. Not one iota. I hope the RB's LSU has now will be able to block while they run.
Posted on 3/23/18 at 2:29 pm to Tiger Ree
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don't believe any change will happen this year !!! It's hilarious.
Oh I’m quite sure there will be change, but I don’t believe it’ll be for the better until I see it. The change could very possibly be for the worse.
You can’t blame people who saw 2012-2017 LSU football for having doubts.
Posted on 3/23/18 at 2:31 pm to chinhoyang
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Why is it that everything O does is always partially complete, simplified, or in the process of being implemented?
Do other programs/coaches claim 100% after six spring practices? I don't really keep up with other schools. Maybe the LSU coaches are just slower. Aranda is still installing his defense after 3 seasons.
Posted on 3/23/18 at 2:33 pm to Tiger Ree
I’ve lost it because you’re too stupid and inexperienced to understand the fact that different coaches do different things and that someone who is a wide receivers coach isn’t automatically qualified to work with the passing system as a whole? Who is your retarded arse to say that anyone has “lost it” when all you do is sit on tigerdroppings all day long and post biased opinion pieces to make your boss look good?
Why don’t you answer this: if Orgeron’s methodology is so good and solid, then why doesn’t everyone attempt to hire career NFL WR coaches as their offensive coordinators? And why hasn’t a single team given Sullivan the chance to be involved with their offense to a greater degree in 15 years if he’s such a savant?
Why don’t you answer this: if Orgeron’s methodology is so good and solid, then why doesn’t everyone attempt to hire career NFL WR coaches as their offensive coordinators? And why hasn’t a single team given Sullivan the chance to be involved with their offense to a greater degree in 15 years if he’s such a savant?
Posted on 3/23/18 at 2:38 pm to Goldrush25
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But our COACHES are busy learning new concepts. If the coaches are learning new things right now how much does that delay the process of their players learning it?
Quality post. Except for the above quote. As pointed out by another poster - the O-line coach was at USC for several seasons and it sounds like LSU is going to run something similar to what he has been doing in the NFL. Tommie has also been at USC and came to LSU from there. He is familiar with the West Coast Offense.
I don't think anybody is learning concepts at this point. Wrinkles and different ways to approach situations, attack defenses, etc. IMO anyway.
Posted on 3/23/18 at 2:41 pm to justice
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he was an assistant to the actual O line coach. Equip mangers get rings also. He wasn’t the line coach but did carry papers for him
Yeah, he didn't even attend practices or the games. The picture of him holding the super bowl trophy on the airplane ride home was a photoshop. He watched the super bowl from his couch.
He also didn't allow the fewest sacks in two separate P5 conferences - 12 in one season and 8 in another. That wasn't him at all.
Posted on 3/23/18 at 2:44 pm to SammyTiger
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the way he puts it is seems like he wasn’t the assistant coach on a team that already had the best OL in the NFL and had already been to a Super Bowl
You come up with this interpretation from someone saying the LSU O-line coach has a super bowl ring. Must be nice to have an overactive imagination.
Posted on 3/23/18 at 2:49 pm to Tiger Ree
Ok, Everything I said Was true. The Denver OL was probably the best OL in the NFL Since Manning got there. And the Broncos played in a Super Bowl in 2013, before Cregg got there.
I think He’s a good hire. I think He will do a great job coaching the Ol. And that’s it.
Ensminger is the OC. He’s got to put together a cohesive offense. And I am Not saying he won’t, but I am saying Creggs super bowl ring won’t be the reason he succeeds or fails. So lay off it.
Do you honestly prefer hiring an OC who has to put together a playbook over hiring one that has fielded a successful offense recently?
I think He’s a good hire. I think He will do a great job coaching the Ol. And that’s it.
Ensminger is the OC. He’s got to put together a cohesive offense. And I am Not saying he won’t, but I am saying Creggs super bowl ring won’t be the reason he succeeds or fails. So lay off it.
Do you honestly prefer hiring an OC who has to put together a playbook over hiring one that has fielded a successful offense recently?
This post was edited on 3/23/18 at 2:56 pm
Posted on 3/23/18 at 2:54 pm to Tiger Ree
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Just because one guy couldn't do something doesn't mean a current guy can't. That's just silly.
That post is what cued you to respond?
Not all of the posters saying after past years they will "believe it when they see it"?
Like nothing has changed at LSU the last couple years.
LSU wss running jet sweeps last season. The leading rushers most games were the receivers.
But the brain dead don't believe any change will happen this year !!! It's hilarious.
Wtf are you talking about Ree? The post I responded to basically said that Narcisse CANNOT do it BECAUSE Harris couldn't do it. That's comparing ONE player to ONE player.
The stuff you're talking about is a wait and see approach because of a pattern of not being able to do it over several years by an entire staff. shite, the OC hasn't even attempted it for 20 years. A wait and see approach on that basis is totally different than saying a kid can't perform because a different kid can't do it.
If you're gonna insult people, you should look in the mirror sometime with this brain dead nonsense. You aren't half as smart as you try to make yourself out to be. Smart people don't have to announce their smart or put other people down to prop themselves up.
A simple response would have been fine if you disagreed, but of course you had to be a dick. Jackass.
Posted on 3/23/18 at 2:55 pm to Tiger Ree
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I don't think anybody is learning concepts at this point. Wrinkles and different ways to approach situations, attack defenses, etc. IMO anyway.
Well we can quibble about what exactly is being learned but the idea is that the coaches are learning right now.
When you're learning yourself it limits the amount you can teach in an expeditious manner.
The offensive staff is in a time crunch. What they're attempting to do is extremely ambitious. I'd be impressed if we fielded an offense that's more prolific/efficient than we were even last year.
You even look at a guy like Dan Mullen who's at a new school. Even Florida's ahead of LSU right now offensively because they have a HC that's been installing his own offense for 10+ years as both a OC and HC, and a OC that knows exactly what he wants because he's been working for him for 5 years.
Contrast that with our situation, a DL coach for a HC, who has no clear idea of what he wants to run on offense. Couple that with an OC who, while he may have an underlying philosophy, isn't being asked to install that, but some other hybrid type of scheme that he hasn't installed before. And he hasn't really even worked as an OC full time in over 20 years.
You think a cobbled-together coaching staff can teach an offense as thoroughly and efficiently as a staff that's been working together on the same scheme for years?
To think this offense is just going to come together and gel because they're all competent at their individual jobs is a fantasy. What they're doing takes time, time that they're running short on.
This post was edited on 3/23/18 at 3:08 pm
Posted on 3/23/18 at 2:59 pm to LSUgrad08112
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Who is your retarded arse to say that anyone has “lost it” when all you do is sit on tigerdroppings all day long and post biased opinion pieces to make your boss look good?
Did you read the quotes from the article in my post?
Did you read the article that was linked in my post?
If you did either and still post this stupid shite. well I guess by now it is actually expected.
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Why don’t you answer this: if Orgeron’s methodology is so good and solid, then why doesn’t everyone attempt to hire career NFL WR coaches as their offensive coordinators?
I'm sure the majority would if they could afford it. Would you rather have a guy with NFL experience teaching you to be a receiver and directing the passing or someone who hasn't been at the top of their profession? If you say one who hasn't you're not only totally nuts you are also a liar.
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And why hasn’t a single team given Sullivan the chance to be involved with their offense to a greater degree in 15 years if he’s such a savant?
I don't know. All I have to go on is what I have heard and read from people familiar with the NFL including other coaches. I am not a big NFL fan and don't follow it.
Posted on 3/23/18 at 3:06 pm to SammyTiger
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but I am saying Creggs super bowl ring won’t be the reason he succeeds or fails. So lay off it.
I never said the "ring" will make a difference in anything besides giving a probable boost in recruiting. Does it bother you that he has a SB ring or just when people say he has a SB ring?
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Do you honestly prefer hiring an OC who has to put together a playbook over hiring one that has fielded a successful offense recently?
I think S-linger or Slinger is a decent enough OC. I also think the whole staff will have input and be able to put together a decent offense. Not record breaking but not as bad as LSU has had in the past few years.
I think it would be hard to be worse than it has been based on the new coaches alone.
Posted on 3/23/18 at 3:08 pm to Tiger Ree
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I'm sure the majority would if they could afford it. Would you rather have a guy with NFL experience teaching you to be a receiver and directing the passing or someone who hasn't been at the top of their profession? If you say one who hasn't you're not only totally nuts you are also a liar.
Love Sullivan coaching WRs
But his record indicates he isn’t a coordinator. Passing game or Otherwise
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