re: Many around the program – and outside of it – compare the scheme Ensminger is implementing

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Wtf are you talking about Ree? The post I responded to basically said that Narcisse CANNOT do it BECAUSE Harris couldn't do it. That's comparing ONE player to ONE player.

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Yeah I know. No offense. I was just reading all the "I'll believe it" posts wondering what the look on the idiots face must have been while typing it. Like I said LSU was running jet sweeps last season and they don't believe LSU can change. When LSU HAS to change.

Nothing personal towards you or your post.

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A simple response would have been fine if you disagreed, but of course you had to be a dick. Jackass.

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Again I totally did not disagree with anything in your post. You were also not one of the people I was insulting.

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Well we can quibble about what exactly is being learned but the idea is that the coaches are learning right now.

When you're learning yourself it limits the amount you can teach in an expeditious manner.

The offensive staff is in a time crunch. What they're attempting to do is extremely ambitious. I'd be impressed if we fielded an offense that's more prolific/efficient than we were even last year.

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A bit of assuming in your post. I have never been on a coaches visit but I would think it is more of a trading of ideas. Like what works best for one or what works the least, etc. Stuff that can be changed witt little or no effort. I doubt that every time the staff visits a different NFL team the trash all they had and begin from scratch on implementing an offense.

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You even look at a guy like Dan Mullen who's at a new school. Even Florida's ahead of LSU right now offensively because they have a HC that's been installing his own offense for 10+ years as both a OC and HC, and a OC that knows exactly what he wants because he's been working for him for 5 years.

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May be true. I don't keep up with Florida or Dan.

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Contrast that with our situation, a DL coach for a HC

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Has absolutely nothing to do with the LSU offense. A lot of HC's are from the defensive side of the ball.

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who has no clear idea of what he wants to run on offense.

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I thought I had heard him explain it and sure I have read about it in articles. Where did you hear this? Possibly on the Rant?

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Couple that with an OC who, while he may have an underlying philosophy, isn't being asked to install that, but some other hybrid type of scheme that he hasn't installed before. And he hasn't really even worked as an OC full time in over 20 years.

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He's been coaching on offense the past 20 years. He has worked under different OC's that had different offenses that he had to have installed at least a portion of them.

It's football not brain-science or rocket-surgery.

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You think a cobbled-together coaching staff can teach an offense as thoroughly and efficiently as a staff that's been working together on the same scheme for years?

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I don't really know. It's possible. I'm not going to depressed over it for nothing. I think the pieces are in place - coaches, players, and hopefully the system.

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To think this offense is just going to come together and gel because they're all competent at their individual jobs is a fantasy. What they're doing takes time, time that they're running short on.

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That's life isn't it? It's not like it's the first rodeo for any of these guys.

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You’ve literally said it will make a difference.

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I may have, but didn't mean to insinuate the ring mattered as far as actual coaching goes. I saw where another poster mentioned that he was familiar with both the West Coast and spread offenses from his time at USC and the NFL. It wasn't me though.

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That’s earnest enoug but it doesn’t bother you that we still don’t think our offense can be elite?

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Nope. I didn't even know "we" thought that.

What should I do bitch, moan and belittle the team all offseason over something I don't have a clue about. I think it would be pretty stupid for me to be depressed all summer and then have LSU come out with a pretty good offense to go along with a fantastic D. What a waste of time.

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You think a cobbled-together coaching staff can teach an offense as thoroughly and efficiently as a staff that's been working together on the same scheme for years?

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I don't really know. It's possible. I'm not going to depressed over it for nothing. I think the pieces are in place - coaches, players, and hopefully the system.

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Give this theoretical talk of yours up and use some common sense. I'm not asking what's possible, I'm asking what's likely; do you think a bunch of coaches brought together from various schemes to learn a new scheme are likely to be as proficient installing it as a HC and OC that have worked together for years on their scheme?

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Would you rather have a guy with NFL experience teaching you to be a receiver and directing the passing or someone who hasn't been at the top of their profession?

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That’s a classic false choice. You don’t have to choose between 1 or the other. Frankly I’d rather have a competent young up and coming coach, there are plenty of those. You don’t have to have a 73 yo WR coach to have a good one.

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It’s nice and all but ultimately doesn’t mean anything and will have basically zero impact on recruiting, oh I’m sure if he shows the ring someone who’s never seen one they will be impressed by it but it probably won’t have any impact in the final decision of where a kid will go to school.

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Don't look at my post on the previous page and what 5-star recruit Kenyon Green said. I'm sure it was somebody else who said "what he did in the NFL" and the reporter mistakenly thought it was Kenyon.

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That you constantly bring it up is a perfect illustration of the difference between being optimistic and sunshine pumping propaganda.

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Or it could be that the very first time I ever heard of the guy I saw a picture of him holding the super bowl trophy. And maybe like when I still envision my nieces and nephews as small children whenever I think of him I envision him holding the super bowl trophy.

Sorry if it bothers you. You should try not to read my posts because I probably won't change. He is one of my favorite coaches.

Some of his recent tweets:

Look Good, Play Good! We call it “The LSU Standard”. Today we take our preparations to Death Valley for Scrimmage 2. The Trenchmen ARE PREPARED FOR BATTLE! #LSUTrenchmen #DoItForMike #LSUisAFamily




They don’t call us #NFLSU for no reason... The most of ANY PROGRAM on active rosters right now. Building Tigers to add to the Legacy! #LSUTrenchmen




All SEC Wall outside the Weightroom here at LSU. Several Trenchmen before and SEVERAL TO COME!! We clock in and out everyday. No Days Off. #LSUTrenchmen





Spring Practice #2 today! Every Rep we take is in preparation for Complete Domination in the Trenches. Death Valley and it’s Fans deserve our absolute Best! #LSUTrenchmen



The “Eye of the Tiger”!!! Each day we’re closing In on our PREY! #LSUTrenchmen




Only the Strong Tigers ?? survive in the Bayou... Were always preparing ourselves for Battle! Do you have what it takes? #LSUTrenchmen

Sounds about right. It's basically a version of what Kiffin ran at Bama, or Carroll and co ran at SC. Exactly what Orgeron wants to do.

We have the personnel to run it, now the coaches have to develop our kids and teach the system, and the shadow staff has to scheme it against what our opponents do.

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do you think a bunch of coaches brought together from various schemes to learn a new scheme are likely to be as proficient installing it as a HC and OC that have worked together for years on their scheme?

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I don't know if it is as simple with that analogy with this LSU staff. Tommie Robinson and Cregg - SUPER BOWL OL COACH - coached at USC together. They are familiar with a very similar system. Robinson, Slinger, Joseph and Sullivan all worked together last season. Sullivan as an analyst. The only new member to the staff is the SB ring wearer Cregg and as pointed out he has familiarity with some of the staff including Eaux.

So it's not like these are all new hire getting to know one another and install a system that NO ONE is familiar with.



If you are asking if I would rather have Les and Cam (who were together for years) installing a new offense or even running the same one they had installed for years I would choose the new regime. No question.

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finally we're abandoning the FB

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It is just my opinion but I wouldn't abandon it completely. No matter what level of play or scheme there comes a time when you must line up and pound the line of scrimmage and punch your opponent in the mouth. There is no better formation to do that than the I-formation. Even the Saints use a lot of I formation with a fullback for short yardage.

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If you are asking if I would rather have Les and Cam (who were together for years) installing a new offense or even running the same one they had installed for years I would choose the new regime. No question.

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Well that’s not what anyone is asking nor is it the only other option but keep floging those straw men