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Posted on 3/9/17 at 6:55 am to Bengal26
TCU and Texas Tech were not mid week games. Get a clue people.
Posted on 3/9/17 at 7:12 am to Ignignot
You do realize that Skip didn't care too much about mid-week games either right?
Posted on 3/9/17 at 7:24 am to Ignignot
1st off, I'm nowhere near panic mode because baseball is a long season.
However, we, as a fanbase, are definitely Excuses U!
In football, we lose to Arky...it was after BAMA game, the players didn't care. We lose to Ole Miss....its their super bowl. We lose bowl game....it was meaningless to us because we wanted a bigger bowl.
In basketball, we lose 14 SEC games, Johnny Jones can't coach (OK not really an excuse here, thats valid).
Back to baseball, yes, we do lose some meaningless midweek games to work on getting young guys innings for experience. I've never had a problem with that.
What I do find a bit concerning is that we are not scoring more runs than these teams we SHOULD be beating. I don't care if they are throwing their ace, we should still be putting up runs and winning (I know on any given night a pitcher can have one of those games and shut a team down, we seem to have them often on midweek games though). Anything defending that is just another excuse.
However, we, as a fanbase, are definitely Excuses U!
In football, we lose to Arky...it was after BAMA game, the players didn't care. We lose to Ole Miss....its their super bowl. We lose bowl game....it was meaningless to us because we wanted a bigger bowl.
In basketball, we lose 14 SEC games, Johnny Jones can't coach (OK not really an excuse here, thats valid).
Back to baseball, yes, we do lose some meaningless midweek games to work on getting young guys innings for experience. I've never had a problem with that.
What I do find a bit concerning is that we are not scoring more runs than these teams we SHOULD be beating. I don't care if they are throwing their ace, we should still be putting up runs and winning (I know on any given night a pitcher can have one of those games and shut a team down, we seem to have them often on midweek games though). Anything defending that is just another excuse.
Posted on 3/9/17 at 8:42 am to Godfather1
Ummm.. Based on what I've seen I'd say the last time was this season?
Posted on 3/9/17 at 9:08 am to Malaysian Tiger
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Thats what Midweek Games are for!
What I don't understand is, since they don't count and aren't considered by the selection committee for NCAA tournament seeding (which is all I keep hearing on here), why do they keep track of them in the Won-Lost record? Why do the media keep saying our record is 9-4 when it is actually 7-2 in the only games that count?
This post was edited on 3/9/17 at 9:39 am
Posted on 3/9/17 at 9:11 am to Nuts4LSU
Florida is 1-4 in midweek. They'll still sweep this weekend and be a top 3 team.
Posted on 3/9/17 at 9:25 am to Ignignot
Pitching is not the problem. I'll concede it was a disaster in the UNO game but leaving 14 runners on base against McNeese and being in a dogfight with Nicholls after only allowing 4 hits are not Johnny Wholestaff issues.
Posted on 3/9/17 at 9:28 am to Ignignot
This is such a ridiculously stupid thread. Hess would have pitched longer IF he would have pitched better. He pitched all his top guys from the bullpen (with the exception of Newman, who would have thrown the 9th if we had the lead). We lost because we didn't hit, end of story. Trying to blame the loss on Mainieri not caring about midweek games is the height of cluelessness. The only reason this loss stings at all, is that we dropped a game to McNeese despite the fact that Mainieri threw everything pitching wise (midweek) he had at them. That is a cause for concern.
Posted on 3/9/17 at 9:29 am to Shiftyplus1
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He does this crap every season, and adds around 3 or 4 losses each year.
Didn't Mainieri only lose like one midweek game over a three year period fairly recently?
Posted on 3/9/17 at 9:38 am to Ignignot
disagree, he wanted Hess to go longer, nad pitcher into the sixth but Hess didn't have it.
After Hess he brought in two good SEC innings eaters in Bain and Reynolds and replaced them later with two top young pitchers in Peterson, Gilbert, and Kiel.
He didn't want any of the five to throw too long, but he did want Hess to go longer and it wasn't one of those deals where he planned on the starter going two, his replacement going one, etc.
After Hess he brought in two good SEC innings eaters in Bain and Reynolds and replaced them later with two top young pitchers in Peterson, Gilbert, and Kiel.
He didn't want any of the five to throw too long, but he did want Hess to go longer and it wasn't one of those deals where he planned on the starter going two, his replacement going one, etc.
Posted on 3/9/17 at 9:40 am to ell_13
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Florida is 1-4 in midweek. They'll still sweep this weekend and be a top 3 team.
Still not answering the question. Why do we keep track of wins and losses in exhibition games that literally do not count?
Posted on 3/9/17 at 9:42 am to Nuts4LSU
quote:I don't know why you are asking this. Name a sport that has a true playoff system that doesn't include a few "meaningless" games.
Why do we keep track of wins and losses in exhibition games that literally do not count?
ETA: And I'd also argue that they certainly are NOT meaningless to the smaller, up-and-coming schools that can use these wins down the road when possibly fighting for an at-large.
This post was edited on 3/9/17 at 9:45 am
Posted on 3/9/17 at 9:50 am to Ignignot
PM's seat needs to heat up after this year if LSU doesn't make significant noise in the postseason.
Perhaps a young and hungry coach like Blake Dean at UNO is what this program needs.
Perhaps a young and hungry coach like Blake Dean at UNO is what this program needs.
Posted on 3/9/17 at 9:53 am to ell_13
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Name a sport that has a true playoff system that doesn't include a few "meaningless" games.
All sports that I know of count all games toward the standings. I know of no sport that literally throws out and ignores the results of any games, other than preseason exhibition games which are not included in the won-lost record.
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I'd also argue that they certainly are NOT meaningless to the smaller, up-and-coming schools that can use these wins down the road when possibly fighting for an at-large.
That makes no sense. The committee does not consider these games for purposes of invitations or seeding, right? That's why they don't count, isn't it? Since they don't count and are not considered, how could the winners of these games benefit from them? Are you saying the committee counts the games for one team but not the other? How do they decide which one to count it for?
Posted on 3/9/17 at 9:58 am to Ignignot
Skip did the same thing with mid-week games. Every major program does that with mid-week games.
Problem from Skip to now, is that under Skip, our second team guys / 4th and 5th pitchers were better than the starts / top line pitchers at the smaller state schools.
Now, the smaller LA schools have legit players of their own. They are not as deep as we are, but their top-line players are easily as good as our second/third line players.
We can lose half our midweek games and as long as we win 19-20 SEC games, we will be a national seed.
Problem from Skip to now, is that under Skip, our second team guys / 4th and 5th pitchers were better than the starts / top line pitchers at the smaller state schools.
Now, the smaller LA schools have legit players of their own. They are not as deep as we are, but their top-line players are easily as good as our second/third line players.
We can lose half our midweek games and as long as we win 19-20 SEC games, we will be a national seed.
Posted on 3/9/17 at 10:04 am to Nuts4LSU
quote:I think it matters for one team and not the other, both in terms of the committee and the teams themselves.
That makes no sense. The committee does not consider these games for purposes of invitations or seeding, right? That's why they don't count, isn't it? Since they don't count and are not considered, how could the winners of these games benefit from them? Are you saying the committee counts the games for one team but not the other? How do they decide which one to count it for?
Posted on 3/9/17 at 10:25 am to LSUFanHouston
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Skip did the same thing with mid-week games. Every major program does that with mid-week games.
What Skip did was under a completely different system. It would have been like pitching what General Washington did in the revolution to Eisenhower on D-Day.
Skip was guaranteed to host under the old format basically no matter what. He correctly identified that mid-week games were meaningless in that system. LSU hosted even when they weren't the top seed. Mainieri is not afforded that luxury. Mainieri's midweek games are of some importance and comparatively are VASTLY more important than Skip's were.
This post was edited on 3/9/17 at 10:34 am
Posted on 3/9/17 at 10:26 am to RocketPower13
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Ummm.. Based on what I've seen I'd say the last time was this season?
Ummm...you mean the season that's less than a month old?
Get back to me at the end of the year. You may have a point, and then you may not.
Posted on 3/9/17 at 10:29 am to therick711
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What Skip did was under a completely different system. It would have been like pitching what General Washington did in the revolution to Eisenhower on D-Day.
It's all about RPI these days.
shite, I saw LSU win a midweek game against Grambling a few years ago and their RPI STILL took a hit. They'd have actually been better off if the game had been rained out.
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