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Posted on 6/15/20 at 2:49 pm to PokeyTiger
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Yet the idiots say this wasn’t MEANINGFUL!
We were up 28. If it was meaningful Burrow would have been in the game
Posted on 6/15/20 at 2:52 pm to Powerman
I feel like it’s not that big of a stretch to see why the national media think Mac Jones will be better than Myles Brennan. It may not be correct but I can see why they logically come up with that conclusion. One has actually taken meaningful snaps In a college football game and it just so happens that that same one was rated higher as a recruit coming out of high school.
There is literally zero reason for them to think otherwise based on all the data they have at this point in their careers.
There is literally zero reason for them to think otherwise based on all the data they have at this point in their careers.
Posted on 6/15/20 at 3:00 pm to geauxtigers33
Right. No reason they can't change their mind after a few games play out next year either. Brennan might have better weapons.
Posted on 6/15/20 at 3:01 pm to geauxtigers33
Brennan was ranked higher then mac. But mac played pretty good, Stats say so anyway.
Mac hasn't been asked to push the ball down field against an average to good secondary. Auburn has a decent secondary but they only threw short passes against them.. He missed some deep balls.
Imo Myles has shown enough in strictly mop up duty to know that he's incredibly talented. If he's 3/4 as football smart as burrow, then he will be better then mac.
Brennan is a different dude. His arm and quick release is talent that most don't have..
Put it this way, mac has a low ceiling,high floor. Brennan has a high floor and an unlimited high ceiling. Just based on watching the two throw a football,it should be obvious.
Mac hasn't been asked to push the ball down field against an average to good secondary. Auburn has a decent secondary but they only threw short passes against them.. He missed some deep balls.
Imo Myles has shown enough in strictly mop up duty to know that he's incredibly talented. If he's 3/4 as football smart as burrow, then he will be better then mac.
Brennan is a different dude. His arm and quick release is talent that most don't have..
Put it this way, mac has a low ceiling,high floor. Brennan has a high floor and an unlimited high ceiling. Just based on watching the two throw a football,it should be obvious.
Posted on 6/15/20 at 3:20 pm to Powerman
You’d think this site would have less of a chip on its shoulder compared off a 15-0 season
Posted on 6/15/20 at 3:33 pm to wildtigercat93
Yeah. Brennan will have his chance to prove it on the field but he lacks experience. He's a 4th year guy with at least some game experience so he should do well.
Posted on 6/15/20 at 3:42 pm to geauxtigers33
quote:and ends there
It starts with the fact they have actually seen Mac Jones play in games during meaningful times.
Posted on 6/15/20 at 4:18 pm to GeauxJZK
Step 1 - just beat them
step 2 - repeat step 1
Then they shut up and go away.
step 2 - repeat step 1
Then they shut up and go away.
Posted on 6/15/20 at 5:07 pm to GeauxJZK
The track record thing is interesting, because do they? Prior to Tua you had Hurts, and while he could scare you with his legs his arm was never really something to worry about. Go before that, Jake Coker, Blake Sims, AJ McCarron, Greg McElroy, John Parker Wilson, and so on.
None of those guys jump off the page, none of those guys are Burrow or Tua. I think prior to Tua they were able to dominate you because they were so much better than you everywhere else, but I think the SEC has closed that gap and they aren’t better everywhere else like they once were.
None of those guys jump off the page, none of those guys are Burrow or Tua. I think prior to Tua they were able to dominate you because they were so much better than you everywhere else, but I think the SEC has closed that gap and they aren’t better everywhere else like they once were.
Posted on 6/15/20 at 5:32 pm to CP3forMVP
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The track record thing is interesting, because do they? Prior to Tua you had Hurts, and while he could scare you with his legs his arm was never really something to worry about. Go before that, Jake Coker, Blake Sims, AJ McCarron, Greg McElroy, John Parker Wilson, and so on.
All were viable to very good SEC starters that didn’t prevent them from winning games
How many QBs have we had in the same time span that you could honestly say that about?
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None of those guys jump off the page, none of those guys are Burrow or Tua. I
Nobody said they were. But that’s not the bar for good QB play. That’s far exceeding the bar for good QB play
This post was edited on 6/15/20 at 5:33 pm
Posted on 6/15/20 at 5:34 pm to GeauxJZK
2019 Preseason rankings of Burrow and Tua as well as LSU and Bama didn't seem to slow the onslaught that was 2019 LSU Championship team. It will all work itself out. We will be ok.
Posted on 6/15/20 at 6:06 pm to ynlvr
Jones was 26-39 for 335 4 TD’s and 2 Ints and ran for 32 yards against the defense that held us to our season low 23 points. I would say he is more proven than Brennan.
Posted on 6/15/20 at 6:11 pm to geauxtigers33
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I can see why they logically come up with that conclusion. One has actually taken meaningful snaps In a college football game and it just so happens that that same one was rated higher as a recruit coming out of high school.
Sure, the same was said about Mond vs Burrow. Even after Burrow had played one season they were still riding with Mond. Now after seeing Mond for a couple of years they are still boosting him.
How do you get that job.
Posted on 6/15/20 at 6:47 pm to GeauxJZK
Who gives a shite. There was a publication last summer that had Joe Burrow ranked #6 among SEC QB's behind Feleipe Franks, Kelly Bryant and Kellen Mond.
Posted on 6/15/20 at 10:55 pm to skullhawk
quote:You didn’t watch the OK game!
97/141 1503 yards 14 TD 3 INT He’s proven himself Brennan has not
After an OK score to hit 28, they weren’t quitting. Myles led a perfect 9-Play drive and threw three dimes (under pressure) to drive 75 yards and eat 6 mins of clock finishing with a QBR higher than Joe’s — Look it up
Final Score 63-28
with a Myles exclamation point
That 9-Play drive didn’t have to prove jack-schitt to those who think Myles is unproven!
That 9-Play drive proved it to the coaches!
Here’s what Ensminger said, you clowns have heard of Steve Ensminger!
"I am very confident that Myles is ready to lead this football team," Ensminger said. "Heck, join the bandwagon. Let’s go.”
“We are tweaking our offense, but it’s not for the quarterback. We are tweaking our offense for our receivers and running backs.
I’m riding!
Posted on 6/15/20 at 11:09 pm to FriscoTiger
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I would say he is more proven than Brennan.
Jones has played in 2 meaningful games (Auburn/Michigan) with a cast of WR’s and Najee Harris who will make anyone look good. He didn’t look bad, but he wasn’t a guy that you have to game plan to slow down. His biggest problem this season will be the pressure he feels behind him from the all world freshman. Brennan will be more comfortable for the mere fact that the job is undoubtedly his.
Posted on 6/16/20 at 12:54 am to Powerman
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We were up 28. If it was meaningful Burrow would have been in the game
If you had half a coaches brain, you’d see why Myles was put in the game and took 9 meaningful snaps! The coaches felt it was meaningful to them. I guess you’re SPECIAL & know more than coaches who commented on that drive. As a matter of fact, Joe did too.
Watch 9:15 thru end
OK wasn’t quitting (playing for pride) & OK blitzes were increasing and QB injury was a possibility. Joe was running out of gas and got the snot knocked out of him and fumbled and we missed a FG. OK answered with 7.
That’s why Brennan went in and took 9 snaps and ran clock for six minutes.
Fresh legs Fresh Arms — Delivered a K/O punch at 63 and OK layed down after that
You’re one of the many FB IQ deficients that litter the lounge. Don’t breed, it doesn’t help our cause.
Posted on 6/16/20 at 1:49 am to GeauxJZK
I agree Myles should be considered in the same regard, if not higher, than Mac Jones right now. Nobody has ever doubted Myles talent as a QB. The only concern anybody has ever had was his weight and the ability of this skinny dude to withstand SEC football. And while he could still stand to gain a couple lbs, he pretty much has that under control.
Honestly, you’re whole post had me right up until you said that you were putting bias aside and felt like we were returning more than they were. I don’t follow this at all.
We have a lot, and I mean A LOT of guys who will have rules next year I’m super excited about. But when You talk about what a CFB team ‘returns’ it’s productive players from years past that are still with the team. For LSU, this doesn’t mean much this year. Really, we only bring back 5 players.
Now, it’s true that one of those players was the best receiver in the nation last year. It’s also true that a second one was an All-American corner as a true freshman. Those guys are both monsters who I think could go down as the greatest tigers ever at their positions. And I don’t say that lightly. Chase has to compete with Josh Reed, OBJ, Jarvis Landry for that title. Stingley is at DBU, where that title is harder to achieve than anywhere else. It’s a monster fest just to reach the top 10 at his positions, but to be the GOAT he’s gotta surpass PP7 and the badger. But I think both these guys will do it.
Beyond that, was does LSU return? For one, there’s last year’s #3 WR. And I think he’s better than most realize and will be first round pick with his size/athleticism. After that...there’s a RT, who is solid but not spectacular. And a SS, who is solid but not spectacular.
These are good players. Chase and Stingley alone have more talent than everybody on tigerdroppings combined. But I don’t think it’s enough to say we return more than bama. They have a lot of talent too (Waddle, Smith, Moses come to mind) and more players overall. Our returning players have great quality, as do Bama’s. They have more quaintly of returning played than we do.
That’s not to say they’ll be better next year. Some do these guys stepping up have me super excited. Curry, Emery, TDP, McMath, some lineman, Clark, Brooks, Flott, Ricks, and Hampton will all be incredible next year. I just don’t agree with this claim that we return more than they do.
Honestly, you’re whole post had me right up until you said that you were putting bias aside and felt like we were returning more than they were. I don’t follow this at all.
We have a lot, and I mean A LOT of guys who will have rules next year I’m super excited about. But when You talk about what a CFB team ‘returns’ it’s productive players from years past that are still with the team. For LSU, this doesn’t mean much this year. Really, we only bring back 5 players.
Now, it’s true that one of those players was the best receiver in the nation last year. It’s also true that a second one was an All-American corner as a true freshman. Those guys are both monsters who I think could go down as the greatest tigers ever at their positions. And I don’t say that lightly. Chase has to compete with Josh Reed, OBJ, Jarvis Landry for that title. Stingley is at DBU, where that title is harder to achieve than anywhere else. It’s a monster fest just to reach the top 10 at his positions, but to be the GOAT he’s gotta surpass PP7 and the badger. But I think both these guys will do it.
Beyond that, was does LSU return? For one, there’s last year’s #3 WR. And I think he’s better than most realize and will be first round pick with his size/athleticism. After that...there’s a RT, who is solid but not spectacular. And a SS, who is solid but not spectacular.
These are good players. Chase and Stingley alone have more talent than everybody on tigerdroppings combined. But I don’t think it’s enough to say we return more than bama. They have a lot of talent too (Waddle, Smith, Moses come to mind) and more players overall. Our returning players have great quality, as do Bama’s. They have more quaintly of returning played than we do.
That’s not to say they’ll be better next year. Some do these guys stepping up have me super excited. Curry, Emery, TDP, McMath, some lineman, Clark, Brooks, Flott, Ricks, and Hampton will all be incredible next year. I just don’t agree with this claim that we return more than they do.
Posted on 6/16/20 at 7:17 am to GeauxJZK
Bama has 4 guys that should have been drafted in the 1st or 2nd round, but they came back. OT,MLB,RB,WR. They all could be preseason all-American.
Seems to me Bama never plays the schedule we do.
No matter what, Saban will get the benefit of the doubt.
Seems to me Bama never plays the schedule we do.
No matter what, Saban will get the benefit of the doubt.
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