re: LSU'S last three years...Just a bare bones look....

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How can you label a coach "elite" when he cannot even manage the clock when the game is on the line?

What other elite coaches get laughed at, what seem week to week on Sportscenter because of dumb mistakes he makes?


That is not elite coaching. I am sorry. It just isnt.

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Lesser, you're stuck in the ESPN loop of fial, like SlowFlowProw. It's your life, whatever they say you believe.


Elite is being able to coach a team to an 11-2 record, win the Cotton Bowl, in the SEC, all with mediocre/poor QB play.

What exactly is the point of this thread?

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2008 8-5 (3-5)- (3rd SEC West)

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I see a fricking hell of a coach.

Our "Heisman candidate" Perriloux stuck it to the team and Les was left with 2 kids that had never seen a playing field. Man took his team to 8-5 in the SEC

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must have been a bad idea?

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No. Didn't mean to imply that. Simply didn't know what you were getting at. Lester seems to have taken it to mean that you are backing his play, which is that Les sucks. Everyone else seems to have taken it as a typical nega-tiger post. Was just curious what you thought.
FWIW, the records seem to indicate a team that is on the rise. Obviously, there is more to a team than its records, but that's what they indicate here.

I see one terrible year, one below-average year, and one above-average year.

If you add it up, all of it equals below-average in my opinion.

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it has to be explicitly stated

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Just give it up.

Everyone knows the why of your 3 year period.

You could have said 2, which would have been more revelant, but you didn't.

Fine, knock yourself out. Just don't act like you have no agenda or real reason for including 08 when we are into 2011.

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Honestly, clock mismanagement is downright common, it's just that Miles seems to be disproportionately criticized for it.

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You cannot honestly sit here and tell me that those are common clock mismanagements(Ole Miss/Tenn).

and "clock management" is just a broad title for what happened in those games.


It boils down to preparedness in both instances.

Not only does Miles let 20 seconds run off before calling a timeout after calling a screen pass with 40 seconds left vs Ole Miss, but he wants LSU to clock the ball after the long pass with ONE SECOND, instead of sending his FG team on?

Look, that is more than just clock management.


2010 vs Tenn was much more than clock management. He calls a running play, then when its stopped at the goaline with clock ticking down, he doesnt A)have another play called or b)clock the ball...... NO, he runs out 5 guys late from the sideline to change formations, with no timeouts, as the clock is ticking down.


Seriously, you cannot label that as common clock mismanagement.

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His players seem to love him, and remembers that football is supposed to be fun. he trusts his players to make plays, and they reward him by doing just that. You don't have to be a dictatorial a-hole to win football games.

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Not arguing this at all man.

He is also paid 4 million dollars to put these kids in position to win. Winning is fun. Losing because your coach isn't putting you in position to win= not fun.

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Know what makes Miles elite? Winning.

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his first 3 years he won at an 85% clip

these past 3 years his % has dropped to 71%.



No, im not in the group that I think we should win a title every year.

My biggest thing is putting the kids in position to win. Because with the talent we have, the winning will take care of itself.

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You cannot honestly sit here and tell me that those are common clock mismanagements(Ole Miss/Tenn).

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Did you not watch the UNC-Tenn bowl game? Or the Green Bay game that Flynn started?? shite happens all the time.

Not to mention Miles' QB in both games you reference has about the lowest football IQ you can have. At some point, the players have to be make quick decisions on the field.

Some of you people crack me up with the clock mismanagement angle. Just watch football every week and you will see idiotic stuff by coaches and players at every level. At least Miles wins. And the players will run through a freakin wall for him.

It amazes me how so many people are so wrong on Les Miles. It's like half the LSU fanbase has no idea what we have and that this is what success looks like. We roll our eyes at 11-2. Unbelievable really.

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Calculated risks

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Nothing calculated about a shitty punt fake design inside your own 20 on 4th and 23. LINK

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Les Miles still cannot explain what went on vs Ole Miss or Tennessee. That says something.

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I'm not saying they weren't major gaffes. They were. Inexcusable.

What I'm saying is that other coaches do stupid shite a lot but don't take near the amount of flack for it.

Here's an article about OU clock mismanagement:

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Stoops took a lot of local heat for that... but it never made national news, much less is it continually referenced now.

But this still returns to my earlier point... you are saying Miles cannot be elite because of one thing: clock management. As if that is THE single most important facet of coaching.

I just find that to be ridiculous.