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drizztiger
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re: LSU v. Indiana 1981 Final Four
Which is still bull shite. That narrative came out years after.

Hi-C was a baller too.


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The Boat
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re: LSU v. Indiana 1981 Final Four
Dale Brown lost the 87 game with his 4 corners offense late in the game. Bobby Knight owned Dale and Dale knew it.


Dlab2013
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re: LSU v. Indiana 1981 Final Four
He got out coached period....


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udtiger
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re: LSU v. Indiana 1981 Final Four
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No, the phone slam was 1987. Indiana beat us in 1981. We were robbed by the refs in 1987. Knight should have been ejected, we should have gotten technical points off of that and they should have called the foul towards the end to put Fess Irvin on the line to win.


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atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
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re: LSU v. Indiana 1981 Final Four
Macklin broke his finger in the Regional final in the Superdome.

Would’ve been a different team if Rudy was healthy.


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geauxpurple
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re: LSU v. Indiana 1981 Final Four
I was a student at LSU then and was at the game in Philly. We were the best team in the country that year and were on a roll. Macklin's hand injury cost us the National Championship.


tigahlovah
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re: LSU v. Indiana 1981 Final Four
I moved from BR to VB, VA at age 11 in the middle of that 81 final 4 season. ALL of my basketball coaches, teachers etc.. knew LSU had the best team that year, and this opinion was from halfway across the country. Back then, the best team won ALMOST every time in the tourney due to very few early NBA defections, and your top players were juniors & seniors. LSU was a shoo-in that year if Rudy had been healthy. Even though Dale has apparently been undermining Wade, one of my biggest sports disappointments as a young LSU fan was Brown never winning a NC.


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SLULions
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re: LSU v. Indiana 1981 Final Four
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We were the best team in the country that year and were on a roll.


They were not on a roll. The team lost four of their final eight games.

LSU had a very talented team that year but played a pretty easy schedule.
The season started in Alaska for the Shootout. LSU lost in the semifinals against Arkansas. LSU then won the next 26 games in a row with only three games against ranked opponents. This was not a great year for the SEC as only Tennessee and Kentucky were ranked when they played the Tigers. LSU ends the regular season losing at Kentucky. LSU wins one SEC tournament game before losing to Georgia. LSU plays one ranked team, #20 Arkansas, on the way to the Final Four. LSU loses both games in Philadelphia to finish the year 31-5.

LSU was unfortunate to not play against some of the best teams in the nation that year. They missed playing North Carolina by losing to Arkansas in Alaska. Both Kentucky and Tennessee lose in the second round of the SEC tournament. In the Midwest regional LSU was the top seed. #2 Arizona St., #3 Iowa and #4 Louisville all lost their opening games. In the final AP poll for the year Arizona St. was ranked #3 and LSU was ranked #4. Would have been a hell of a game in the Superdome.


geauxpurple
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re: LSU v. Indiana 1981 Final Four
We were on a roll at tournament time when it counted. Those two games in the Superdome, especially the bracket finals in front of about 50,000 people, were magical.


tigahlovah
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re: LSU v. Indiana 1981 Final Four
We were 31-3 with a healthy Macklin, and you can't hold the last loss vs wahoo against LSU because there had to be a letdown after the natty hopes being dashed. There's a reason that was the last 3rd place game ever played. No one cares to play it.
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knight4
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re: LSU v. Indiana 1981 Final Four
I loved LSU basketball as a kid, but Dale Brown broke me of that...he could do the most with the least amount of talent, and the least with the most amount of talent. I'd love to see W.Wade bring it back.


tigahlovah
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virginia beach, va
Member since Oct 2009
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re: LSU v. Indiana 1981 Final Four
Wade will bring it back, better than Dale did. Brown did pretty well with the talented 81 team, it's a crying shame Rudy got hurt in the elite 8 win.


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tigersbb
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re: LSU v. Indiana 1981 Final Four
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Dale Brown lost the 87 game with his 4 corners offense late in the game. Bobby Knight owned Dale and Dale knew it.


A Hall of Fame Coach at a blue blood program and Dale and upstart LSU leads you until 6 seconds left in the game and you call that owning Dale? Had the officials taken charge of the game when Hall of Fame coach went on his rampage LSU wins by 8 to 10 point.


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Manswers
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Michigan
Member since Feb 2009
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re: LSU v. Indiana 1981 Final Four
I remember Greg Cook did not play in the Great Alaska Shootout. Some sort of disciplinary thing, I think. We had true FR, 6'7" Leonard Mitchell playing against a quality (future NBA) 6'11" Center for Arkansas (I don't recall his name). I don't remember the details of the game, but I'm sure that had something to do with the loss.

Man, we missed playing North Carolina twice that year. I would have loved to see this team play against James Worthy and Sam Perkins, but to be honest, I would not have bet against that UNC team playing against those Tigers. Worthy would have handled even a healthy Macklin more than Landon Turner did. Sam Perkins was only a Fr going against a Sr Greg Cook, so I would give an edge to Cook but that's assuming Cook would have dressed for the Gr. AL shootout. I would have loved to have seen that game, though.
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Mandocello
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Member since Mar 2008
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re: LSU v. Indiana 1981 Final Four
I had never seen the game since it aired when I was a kid, and I made it through the whole thing.

The collapse in the second half was so severe that they scored 9 points in 17 minutes of play.

Never saw anything like it, and no wonder Dale called it the most bitter loss of his career.


Manswers
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Michigan
Member since Feb 2009
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re: LSU v. Indiana 1981 Final Four
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I had never seen the game since it aired when I was a kid, and I made it through the whole thing. The collapse in the second half was so severe that they scored 9 points in 17 minutes of play. Never saw anything like it, and no wonder Dale called it the most bitter loss of his career.


I was in 10th grade and vaguely remembered the game. Brown showed he was not an elite coach in that game. I loved the guy and certainly enjoyed LSU basketball throughout the 80s and early 90s but he simply was not on the same level as Dean Smith, Denny Crum or Bobby Knight.

The first half was actually enjoyable to watch. That's why I said "watch about half" :)


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SoulBrotha91
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re: LSU v. Indiana 1981 Final Four
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LSU v. Indiana 1981 Final Four


Arguably LSU's greatest basketball team versus Knight, Zeke, Ray Tolbert, Landon Turner, Randy Wittman, etc. during one of college basketball's most exciting, talent-filled, and eventful tournaments, doesn't get much better than that, luck of the draw for us at least we lost to the eventual champ


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Amadeo
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re: LSU v. Indiana 1981 Final Four
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Leonard Mitchell playing against a quality (future NBA) 6'11" Center for Arkansas (I don't recall his name)

Scott Hastings?


Manswers
LSU Fan
Michigan
Member since Feb 2009
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re: LSU v. Indiana 1981 Final Four
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Scott Hastings?


That's probably him. My memory is too fuzzy and I don't recall watching the game, just reading about it at the time.

Yesterday I wound up watching the 1981 final between Indiana and North Carolina. I was surprised to see almost the same dynamics in the game. The game was tight at half time with NC leading most of the first half but then Indiana going on a run at the beginning of the second half and pulling away for an easy win. That was a Dean Smith-coached team with an even better front line than LSU - future NBA greats James Worthy and Sam Perkins, and college star and would-have-been 1980 Olympian Al Wood.

Another interesting thing about the game that I had not remembered is that it happened on the day Reagan was shot. He had only been in office less than two months. Here's the link to that game.

As I look at that Indiana team, in hindsight it was formidable - all-time great Isaiah Thomas, future NBA players in Randy Whittman and Ray Tolbert and a would-have-been NBA star Landon Turner - drafted in the 2nd round of an NBA draft by the Celtics even after he had been paralyzed. Shows you how much they thought of his talent - hoping that somehow he could have recovered. Turner looked really good going against Worthy in this game.

LINK


Manswers
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Michigan
Member since Feb 2009
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re: LSU v. Indiana 1981 Final Four
In the second half at about the one hour and one minute mark, Dick Enberg said "This is what happened to LSU on Saturday." About a minute or two later Billy Packer said something similar.
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