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re: LSU v. Alabama -- BCS NGC 01/09/12 @ Mercedes-Benz Superdome

Posted on 12/4/11 at 9:36 am to
Posted by CajunAlum Tiger Fan
The Great State of Louisiana
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 12/4/11 at 9:36 am to
I'm surprised some of these guys aren't putting okst #1 to move them into the game
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
62191 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 9:39 am to
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This x 1000.............Tell me what kind of formula says you have the best resume of your counterpart but a lower score than him in the rankings?

That is laughable.



One that weights strength of loss significantly.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
62191 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 9:40 am to
quote:

Sagarin's program must have some really unusual quirks in it. He has Oklahoma ranked #4, Baylor #10, Kansas State #12, Texas A&M #13, Missouri #15 and #Texas #16, and Oklahoma State has beaten all of them. On the other hand, the only team that Alabama beat that's ranked in Sagarin's top 20 is Arkansas at #7, but they're still ranked ahead of Oklahoma State. If the Sagarin ranking is the deciding factor in keeping Oklahoma State out of the big game, T Boone Pickens needs to sue to make Sagarin release his formula.



It has to be strength of loss.

Alabama's loss is viewed by the algorithm as a very small fraction of a loss.

OSU has hit it's ceiling in the ratings. It could beat 6 more top 10 rankings and not move up because there is some component for strength of loss that will be significantly different than Bama's.
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
68639 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 9:41 am to
Looks like Bama in the NCG ... Computers didn't bounce OSU high enough.
Posted by DennyChimes10
21-0
Member since Mar 2010
1913 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 9:42 am to
quote:

YES MY DAD IS A LAWYER IN NEW ORLEANS


Star Jones?
Posted by dinner roll
buttery goodness
Member since Feb 2006
6488 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 9:43 am to
link to list of harris voters.

in case anyone wants to start running down their tweets.
Posted by lsumatt
Austin
Member since Feb 2005
12812 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 9:46 am to
quote:

Looks like Bama in the NCG ... Computers didn't bounce OSU high enough.


The Massey rumors are from an old website. I am not quite sold on Wolfe yet.
Posted by Lagrange Gator
Contraband Bayou
Member since Nov 2010
1038 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 9:47 am to
Thanks lsumatt!!!


This stuff is still clear as mudd to me!!! But I say BRING EM ON!!! Whoever they may be!!!

Posted by ashy larry
Marcy Projects
Member since Mar 2010
5577 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 9:50 am to
I would nt be surprised to see some big 12 voters putting a ballot like this....

Lsu
OSU
Oregon
Bama

Posted by CE Tiger
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
41886 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 9:51 am to
If okie gets these 3 computers, what does that put the % at the coaches?

quote:

Jeff Andersen and Chris Hester haven't published as of yet, but last week they had the Pokes ahead of the Tide, and that was before one of OSU's better wins of the season during a Bama bye week.

Last week's Billingsley Report rankings had the Cowboys just a hair behind Alabama, but that seems likely to change.

The Colley Matrix also hasn't been updated yet, but Oklahoma State has a very good chance to take it as well.
Posted by SEC Supreme
Virginia Beach
Member since Jan 2007
429 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 9:52 am to
If it is strength of loss. Then somebody explain how Oklahoma is number 4?
Posted by TigerMan02
Member since Dec 2007
891 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 9:54 am to
Would they even post the computer polls or just not give them out until tonight BCS selection?
Posted by Srbtiger06
Member since Apr 2006
29032 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 9:55 am to
Someone posted on the MSB about LSU actually losing points in ELO while UGA gained...anyone know if that is true and if so, why?
Posted by lsumatt
Austin
Member since Feb 2005
12812 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 9:55 am to
Ok State has the following in the Bag:

1. Colley - OSU
2. Billingsly - OSU
3. A&H - OSU

Sagarin is out and it goes to Bama
4. Sagarin - Bama

The other two we don't know, but rumors have bama in for Wolfe

5. Wolfe - Rumored Bama
6. Massey?

If OSU gets 3/6 they need 50% of the votes, if they get 4/6 they need 37.5% and 5/6 or 6/6 they need 25%
Posted by Joe Joe Joe
Givin' Him the Business
Member since Oct 2007
5746 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 9:57 am to
Anyone know when Harris and Coaches' Poll ballots were due?

Curious what affect, if any, the leak of computer voting may have on some voters.
Posted by suman
Member since Jun 2009
73 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 9:59 am to
Anyone else think it's odd that Andy Staples is the only person who claims to have seen the Wolfe rankings? And he says he's been having them since late last night.
Posted by TulaneLSU
Member since Aug 2003
Member since Dec 2007
13616 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 10:08 am to
LSUmatt, thanks for your analysis. Could I offer one suggestion? When you post updates in your thread title, could you post the time of the update also?
Posted by dischNoutTAspd
Houston
Member since Nov 2009
909 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 10:16 am to
whose number 2 in the BCS
Posted by Weaver
Madisonville, LA
Member since Nov 2005
28042 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 10:20 am to
He has posted the page update before. That is all I need.
Posted by dchevy
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2011
505 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 10:22 am to
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AND YES MY DAD IS A LAWYER IN NEW ORLEANS..


I bet you will turn a trick for a dime
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