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re: LSU traditions, and why our governor doesn’t give a sh’t about them.

Posted on 11/8/24 at 3:24 am to
Posted by lsufan1971
Zachary
Member since Nov 2003
23499 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 3:24 am to
Jeff Landry is a fricking clown. I say this a someone who is MAGA AF. It’s a really terrible look for him. To spend political capital on Mike being in the stadium with all of the other issues in the state shows how incompetent a politician he really is to be honest.
Posted by Cuthbert13
Member since Apr 2024
522 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 3:35 am to
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go to Africa


India*
Posted by Nix to Twillie
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2015
19774 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 4:01 am to
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Does the Tiger look unhappy?


Oh FFS
Posted by BabyTac
Austin, TX
Member since Jun 2008
15567 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 4:27 am to
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How do you know he doesn't care? Did you graduate from your favorite professional teams? Would you like me to tell you that you are not allowed to have a valid opinion about what they do, since you never played or worked for them?


Found the guy whose never stepped foot in a classroom yet decks himself out in obnoxious LSU gear while in the 30A.
Posted by 0x15E
Outer Space
Member since Sep 2020
14735 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 4:35 am to
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Did you graduate from your favorite professional teams? Would you like me to tell you that you are not allowed to have a valid opinion about what they do, since you never played or worked for them?


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I happen to think having the live tiger was neat, and not any less "harmful" to the animal than people who have pets.


Did you graduate from a veterinary school? Did you work for Tiger King?

Would you like me to tell you that you are not allowed to have the opinion that a tiger riding around in a cage is not any less “harmful” than people who have pets?

…because you really have no fricking clue.
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
130233 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 4:36 am to
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In Africa, those things are being hunted down, yet animal rights activists think Mike the Tiger has a horrible life.

You don’t think activists call out poachers?
Posted by Swampcat
Member since Dec 2003
12058 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 4:36 am to
India
Posted by Deuce McWin
Canal Street
Member since Aug 2004
1136 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 5:13 am to
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There are no indigenous tigers in Africa…

Guess they were treated VERY poorly.
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
6686 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 5:29 am to
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Oh FFS


Do any of you even get what the point was? I'm asking if the tiger looks unhappy, not because I CAN tell if he's happy or not, but precisely because no one can tell. Because animals are not emotional beings. Activists get all caught up in their feelings about the treatment of animals who are being pampered inside their artificial habitat, because supposedly the animals will miss their home life. Well how do they know that? What have these animals told them?

How do people miss the obvious sarcasm when I asked if the tiger looked unhappy?
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
6686 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 5:33 am to
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Found the guy whose never stepped foot in a classroom yet decks himself out in obnoxious LSU gear while in the 30A.


I haven't worn LSU gear even once in my life. I'm not a "gear" person. But what, exactly, gives you the impression that I have no education based on the paragraph you quoted? If you believe you are smarter than I am, then you should have no problem preparing a well thought out response with counter arguments. When you insult someone's intelligence, with no attempt of a counterpoint, it gives the opposite impression of what you think you've achieved.
This post was edited on 11/8/24 at 5:43 am
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
6686 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 5:41 am to
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You don’t think activists call out poachers?


Oh, I know they have. I didn't say otherwise. What I want to know is why some people are so concerned about the plight of an animal like Mike the tiger, when tigers who live in their natural habitat are in danger of being hunted to extinction? You would think that anyone who is truly concerned for the well being of these animals would welcome a safe environment for them to live in.

I'm not an animal rights activist, obviously, but I don't want to see them go extinct. I tend to agree, for that reason, with laws that protect against the total removal of an animal from existence. Unfortunately, the countries where these tigers live are not able to protect them very well, it seems.
This post was edited on 11/8/24 at 5:42 am
Posted by DrEdgeLSU
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2006
8584 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 6:00 am to
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Metaloctopus


Your opinions about whether animals have feelings and show emotion is widely and thoroughly debunked. Your opinion that animals have only one basic instinct, to search for food, is widely and thoroughly debunked.

Yet here you are, bravely fighting the fight in the face of such overwhelming and widely accepted knowledge about animals.

Cheers to you, good sir, for without people as ignorant as you, there wouldn’t be a way to tell who has a functioning brain and who doesn’t. Thank you for your service.
Posted by Tiger in Gatorland
Moonshine Holler
Member since Sep 2006
9523 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 6:06 am to
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I can remember as a kid getting bit by my dog


Too bad it wasn't a blood thirsty pitbull

Your IQ is on full display in this thread and it doesn't look good.
Posted by paulb52
Member since Dec 2019
7056 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 6:17 am to
Get over it man.
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
6686 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 6:25 am to
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Your opinions about whether animals have feelings and show emotion is widely and thoroughly debunked


Not it is not. And that is why you aren't debunking it right now.

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Your opinion that animals have only one basic instinct, to search for food, is widely and thoroughly debunked.



Putting words in my mouth. I said hunting for food is what they do their whole lives. I didn't say that was their only instinct. Their instinct is to survive. They protect themselves and their young from predators when threatened, some animals hibernate, and so on. Of course, animals have been known to eat their young when unable to find food. Because their instinct is to survive.

Animals have an instinct to bond with their caretakers, because they see their caretakers as if they (the humans) were their mother. This happens when animals grow up with humans instead of their actual mothers.

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Yet here you are, bravely fighting the fight in the face of such overwhelming and widely accepted knowledge about animals.



Where is your "overwhelming and widely accepted knowledge"? Your tactic is a familiar one, widely used by people who rely on the opinions of ignorant and self righteous activists who assign "facts" to animals that are never supported with evidence, by simply stating "it is widely accepted". How convenient for you, that you don't have to know what that knowledge supposedly is.

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Cheers to you, good sir, for without people as ignorant as you, there wouldn’t be a way to tell who has a functioning brain and who doesn’t. Thank you for your service.


No thanks needed. You can keep the mirror, free of charge.
This post was edited on 11/8/24 at 6:27 am
Posted by 0x15E
Outer Space
Member since Sep 2020
14735 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 6:32 am to
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
12548 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 6:34 am to
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There are hundreds there in captivity, and they do not get the treatment that something like Mike the Tiger gets here. And where they "live", as you put it, anywhere in the world, they are hunted. Large animals tend to be hunted for many reasons.

Yeah, I’m sure that’s what you meant when you talked about tigers being hunted in Africa.
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animals don't have feelings

Wow. I don’t know how anyone who has ever owned a dog can possibly believe this. Hope you don’t have any pets.
Posted by Jack Daniel
Gold member
Member since Feb 2013
28365 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 6:34 am to
Y’all called Jon Belle a SJW bitch for ending the tradition now yall bitching about it trying to be brought back. Make yall minds up pussies
Posted by jrobic4
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
11845 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 6:35 am to
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In Africa, those things are being hunted down


There are NO TIGERS IN AFRICA!
Posted by DrEdgeLSU
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2006
8584 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 6:43 am to
Hard to know where to begin, and I am writing this post fully knowing that you will not read it. But in an attempt to demonstrate just how thoroughly ignorant you are being, here goes nothing.

Study on empathy in animals

Article outlining studies about animals displaying emotions such as joy, fear and grief

Studies shows that animals are sentient and capable of experiencing distress, pain, and joy

Basic summary article from Wikipedia citing multiple sources

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Putting words in my mouth. I said hunting for food is what they do their whole lives. I didn't say that was their only instinct. Their instinct is to survive. They protect themselves and their young from predators when threatened, some animals hibernate, and so on. Of course, animals have been known to eat their young when unable to find food. Because their instinct is to survive. Animals have an instinct to bond with their caretakers, because they see their caretakers as if they (the humans) were their mother. This happens when animals grow up with humans instead of their actual mothers.


This is what you said:

“Does the Tiger look unhappy? Did he tell you he was sad? He's an animal. As long as he has food, that's what animals spend their entire lives doing, is hunting for food.”

Not hard to infer you were suggesting that your simplistic view of animals is limited to a belief that they only care about food.

And your comments about being attached to a caretaker actually are contrary to the very point you seem to be trying to make. But I’ll let you try to sort that one out.

From that same post, you added this gem:

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Why would they lose their ability to house a tiger, because he wants it back in the stadium? That is an incoherent statement.


It’s only incoherent because you are ignoring the facts. LSU has to have a lot of special permits and accreditation to have a live tiger on campus. Part of maintaining that accreditation requires that LSU, among other things, actually demonstrates that it gives a shite about the wellbeing of the the animal. See if you can figure out the logical leap there instead of limiting your thought process to “me want tiger to roar in stadium.”

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Where is your "overwhelming and widely accepted knowledge"? Your tactic is a familiar one, widely used by people who rely on the opinions of ignorant and self righteous activists who assign "facts" to animals that are never supported with evidence, by simply stating "it is widely accepted". How convenient for you, that you don't have to know what that knowledge supposedly is.


See above. And also note that you have provided no evidence at all to support anything you’ve stated, other than your own clearly ignorant opinions.

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