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re: LSU should play Southern in football

Posted on 1/8/16 at 9:23 am to
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 1/8/16 at 9:23 am to
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and didn't celebrate some crappy swac championship


it was the HBC National Title actually, and I have no issue at all with them being honored as well
Posted by boxcarbarney
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Posted on 1/8/16 at 9:26 am to
And we can hear people swoon over how great Southern's band is, while I'm wondering why people like the sound of dolphins going through trash compactors.
Posted by DBeaux225
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2012
9949 posts
Posted on 1/8/16 at 9:32 am to
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was the HBC National Title actually, and I have no issue at all with them being honored as well


Plus people don't realize how close those 03 LSU and Southern teams were. I was on both campuses at that time and LSU football team was always on Southern campus while I was there. Most players on those teams played high school football together or against each other.
Posted by DocJerome
New Jersey
Member since Aug 2009
887 posts
Posted on 1/8/16 at 10:38 am to
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And we can hear people swoon over how great Southern's band is, while I'm wondering why people like the sound of dolphins going through trash compactors.



Interesting comment considering the fact that many of the modern traditions you recognize today as "LSU campus and sports culture," is in fact borrowed or stolen (perspective) from well established traditions directly linked to HBCU's; in this case, Southern University.

What you call "Neck" is a song released by the R&B group called Cameo in 1985 on the Single Life LP. Southern's band has been playing it since then.

The chant "LLLLLLLLLLLLL - S - U, . . . L-L-L-L-L - S - U," was first introduced in a talent show at the F.G. Clark Activity Center (Mini-Dome) in the spring semester of 1986, but it was "SSSSSSSSSSSSS - U, . . . S-S-S-S-S - S - U."

The Mu Psi Chapter of Phi Mu Alpha had many songs that were composed and sung by the guys in the frat, and they are unique to that chapter only. In 1989, in the spirit of cross town cooperation, those songs were taught to the brothers at Beta Omega. They are still singing them today in the halls of the music building and around campus.

Southern adopted the name DBU before anyone else in the country even heard of the term, because of a long standing tradition, at the time, of sending great DB's into the NFL; particularly, from 1980-97.

Alvin Haymond 1964
Mel Blount 1970
Ken Ellis 1970
Raymond Jones 1970
Herbert Williams 1980
James Davis 1982
Anthony Tuggle 1985 undrafted
Floyd Raglin 1987 undrafted
Michael Ball 1988
Maurice Hurst 1989
Aeneas Williams 1991
Otis Smith 1991 undrafted
Malik Boyd 1994 undrafted
Matthew Dorsett 1995 undrafted
Jerry Wilson 1996 undrafted
John Williams 1997 undrafted
Elvis Joseph 2001 undrafted
Lenny Williams 2004 undrafted
Ahmad Treaudo 2005 undrafted

There are many others, but who would read the wall of text? Understand what you are talking about before you open your mouth about something you only have surface knowledge of or no knowledge at all. The insults only serve to diminish you.
This post was edited on 1/8/16 at 10:44 am
Posted by sjmabry
Texas
Member since Aug 2013
18853 posts
Posted on 1/8/16 at 10:39 am to
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I forgot how we had to share the parade with southern back in 04 so people wouldn't get butt hurt that we celebrated a national title and didn't celebrate some crappy swac championship
I bet you're the first mofo to get knocked out during a fight...
Posted by DocJerome
New Jersey
Member since Aug 2009
887 posts
Posted on 1/8/16 at 11:03 am to
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I forgot how we had to share the parade with southern back in 04 so people wouldn't get butt hurt that we celebrated a national title and didn't celebrate some crappy swac championship



It was the HBC National Title or the Championship game for Historically Black Colleges. If it weren't for this inherent insider racist system that was established through the TV networks and the NCAA, none of the current power conferences could say with a straight face that they won any kind of National Championship. Once all the young black student athletes you so effectively convince to sign with schools and programs that don't help advance their community in any way other than make money and adopt policy that excludes people who look like them. Except of course, where it is blatantly obvious and the situation has reached a critical mass.

BTW, "butt hurt" is a very juvenile, tired, and overused phrase, on this site in particular.
Posted by boxcarbarney
Above all things, be a man
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 1/8/16 at 11:27 am to
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What you call "Neck" is a song released by the R&B group called Cameo in 1985 on the Single Life LP. Southern's band has been playing it since then


Yet when the Tiger Band plays it, it sounds like actual music, as opposed to sounding like a bunch of three year olds pretending an old wrapping paper tube is a trumpet.

I glanced at the rest of your post, and I'm certain no one cares.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
29840 posts
Posted on 1/8/16 at 11:36 am to
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What you call "Neck" is a song released by the R&B group called Cameo in 1985 on the Single Life LP. Southern's band has been playing it since then.



So Southern was the first band to every play that, or did they copy it from someone else too, b/c many schools play it.

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The chant "LLLLLLLLLLLLL - S - U, . . . L-L-L-L-L - S - U," was first introduced in a talent show at the F.G. Clark Activity Center (Mini-Dome) in the spring semester of 1986, but it was "SSSSSSSSSSSSS - U, . . . S-S-S-S-S - S - U."



Are you trying to insinuate we had to steal how to chant "L-S-U", and we stole it from Southern? Do they teach this to you guys in class? Did every other school in America learn this from Southern?

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Southern adopted the name DBU before anyone else in the country even heard of the term, because of a long standing tradition, at the time, of sending great DB's into the NFL; particularly, from 1980-97.



yeah ok
Mel Blount and Aeneas Williams were the only two that did anythign successful in the NFL. I'll give you Jerry Wilson too since he played for like 10 years, just never really started anywhere other than 2 years in San Diego. the rest of those guys barely played at all in the NFL.

There is no tradition of sending great defensive backs to the NFL from Southern. I guess Patrick Peterson was hanging out at Bella Noches with some Southern players and heard them talk about being DBU so he decided to steal that from them.

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There are many others, but who would read the wall of text? Understand what you are talking about before you open your mouth about something you only have surface knowledge of or no knowledge at all. The insults only serve to diminish you.



there's nothing wrong with you being proud of Southern, but don't make shite up to try to make the school sound better than LSU. They have cool traditions, be proud of them. And I agree that they usually sound terrible as a band playing as loud as possible most of the time, but they are very entertaining.
Posted by Team Vote
DFW
Member since Aug 2014
7949 posts
Posted on 1/8/16 at 11:39 am to
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Once all the young black student athletes you so effectively convince to sign with schools and programs that don't help advance their community in any way other than make money and adopt policy that excludes people who look like them. Except of course, where it is blatantly obvious and the situation has reached a critical mass.



That part of your post is bullshite. LSU does more for BR than Southern, and that includes all of BR.

ETA: coming from someone who would like to see LSU host Southern in football at least once
This post was edited on 1/8/16 at 11:58 am
Posted by boxcarbarney
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Posted on 1/8/16 at 11:54 am to
No no no no. Southern started everything. Anything done by anyone else was stolen from Southern.
Posted by STRIPES
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2003
4771 posts
Posted on 1/8/16 at 12:13 pm to
I do have a problem with elevating some bogus "hbc" national title to the achievement that is winning a legit title.

The FCS (swac is member) has a 16 team playoff which is the sanctioned national championship of the FCS. The Sullivan poll and the Herritage Bowl and any associated. "National championship" are not legitimate titles as the only teams competing are teams from the swac & MEAC. Two of the historically
weakest conferences in The FCS playing each other does not equate to any legitimate title.

You can argue all you want and try to be politically correct but this is still true.
Posted by YouAre8Up
in a house
Member since Mar 2011
12792 posts
Posted on 1/8/16 at 12:13 pm to
quote:

It would be a great event for Baton Rouge and a LOT more interesting and memorable than our usual rent a win games


No, it really wouldn't be great.
Posted by DocJerome
New Jersey
Member since Aug 2009
887 posts
Posted on 1/8/16 at 12:20 pm to
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You can argue all you want and try to be politically correct but this is still true.



Nothing politically correct about the fact that anything associated with Blacks are deemed inferior or not legitimate in the eyes of many white men, traditionally. Some Blacks adopt the mentality, but that doesn't diminish the accomplishment or the experience in any way.

Any titles won by all white teams in any sport should be vacated or void using your reasoning.
Posted by DocJerome
New Jersey
Member since Aug 2009
887 posts
Posted on 1/8/16 at 12:21 pm to
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No no no no. Southern started everything. Anything done by anyone else was stolen from Southern.



Well, in this case, it was. Thanks for using the word "stolen."
Posted by Deep Purple Haze
LA
Member since Jun 2007
68415 posts
Posted on 1/8/16 at 12:24 pm to
no
Posted by DocJerome
New Jersey
Member since Aug 2009
887 posts
Posted on 1/8/16 at 12:25 pm to
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That part of your post is bullshite. LSU does more for BR than Southern, and that includes all of BR.



They didn't start developing South BR until certain people voiced concern about how the approach to the campus looked given the football program's national presence, and the rise in real estate in the area. The university hasn't done jack in decades to that area until recently, fact.
Posted by boxcarbarney
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Member since Jul 2007
25780 posts
Posted on 1/8/16 at 12:28 pm to
Considering the majority of LSU'S football team is black...
Posted by DocJerome
New Jersey
Member since Aug 2009
887 posts
Posted on 1/8/16 at 12:29 pm to
quote:

TeddyPadillac


It is what it is. Traditionally, mainstream American culture borrows or steals directly from African American culture, especially in advertising, music, sports, fashion, etc. This is indisputable fact.

Perhaps you should visit the SU campus to see what you'll be into 10 years from now.
Posted by PaulT78
Lake Charles
Member since Aug 2013
454 posts
Posted on 1/8/16 at 12:32 pm to
Dont tell them facts like that. They need to be thanking the Swac and Integration for Everything they have on that campus cause they wouldnt have squat if Bear didnt get his arse kicked by Usc.

This mess always cracks me up. That same Riff Raff is on Lsu team too. Give Us Our Kids back then and We'll see what happens next.
Posted by DocJerome
New Jersey
Member since Aug 2009
887 posts
Posted on 1/8/16 at 12:33 pm to
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Considering the majority of LSU'S football team is black...



A Black College Championship title in football would be legit, don't you think? The distinction is there. How about the many championship titles won with all white teams in all white leagues, are they really legitimate if everyone else was excluded?

Try to think about it.
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