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LSU not a running threat narrative
Posted on 9/4/19 at 10:16 am
Posted on 9/4/19 at 10:16 am
It seems this narrative is strong amongst the Texas fan base. I assume they look at the box score and see essentially 120 yards on about 30 carries.
What they fail to do is look at little further down in the stats. All five RB combines to catch 12 passes for another 102 yards. None of these were downfield throws. These are essentially runs.
Averaged out we’re getting 5.3 yards each time a running back touches the ball.
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What they fail to do is look at little further down in the stats. All five RB combines to catch 12 passes for another 102 yards. None of these were downfield throws. These are essentially runs.
Averaged out we’re getting 5.3 yards each time a running back touches the ball.
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This post was edited on 9/4/19 at 10:22 am
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Posted on 9/4/19 at 10:17 am to BPTiger
The truth is that we do not know at this time. A great passing game will loosen the defense making the run that much easier.
Posted on 9/4/19 at 10:19 am to BPTiger
Yea we used the quick pass as an extension of our running game, so that was nice. I also believe Clyde will get more of a bulk of the carries on Sat. He clearly showed better vision than the other 4 guys last week, so it will show this weekend how good our running game still is.
Posted on 9/4/19 at 10:19 am to BPTiger
I'd also like to point out that over 50% of the carries went to the 3rd-5th string RBs. Texas is pointing out the low ypc, but we played more RBs than they have on their roster.
This post was edited on 9/4/19 at 10:21 am
Posted on 9/4/19 at 10:20 am to LSUStar
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The truth is that we do not know at this time. A great passing game will loosen the defense making the run that much easier.
Right, we dont know. But with all 5 RB's catching last weekend, they will be part of the scheme. We shouldnt let the Rushing Yards be a indication of how ell the running backs are doing especially in a spread offense. Speed In Space is deadly
Posted on 9/4/19 at 10:28 am to BPTiger
Good point!
I’ve never been mad at the Saints or the Patriots for not ramming it down opposing team’s throats all of the time. A quick short pass/screens game can be as or more effective than designed runs.
I’ve never been mad at the Saints or the Patriots for not ramming it down opposing team’s throats all of the time. A quick short pass/screens game can be as or more effective than designed runs.
Posted on 9/4/19 at 10:28 am to BPTiger
Our starting LT didn’t play and we rotated in backups early.
Hell, Rosenthal came in and played a ton in the game as what I guess is the third string LT behind Traore.
I’m not worried at all.
Hell, Rosenthal came in and played a ton in the game as what I guess is the third string LT behind Traore.
I’m not worried at all.
Posted on 9/4/19 at 10:29 am to BPTiger
There were a few runs that were one man to beat from being long gains or TD runs.
Posted on 9/4/19 at 10:38 am to BPTiger
Texas is vulnerable to the run. While not a fan of Big 12 football, their defenses are designed to stop that quick shot, pistol type offense. Tigers will definitely have to establish the run. It shouldn't be hard, Tigers have had success against TCU and ATM in the past.
Posted on 9/4/19 at 10:41 am to OchoDedos
Georgia had trouble running although Swift had an off-game and Kirby inexplicably pulled in in the 1st quarter for a single fumble. He came back in 2 quarters later and immediately fumbled again.
Posted on 9/4/19 at 10:43 am to BPTiger
as long as we keep spreading the field horizontally with passes OR runs and when they squat on short routes we throw intermediate to deep we will have holes in the line we will gouge them on north-south running from the gun. make them defend the whole width and depth of field.
Posted on 9/4/19 at 10:45 am to BPTiger
Texas should be worried that we have an Orgeron, Ensminger, Brady, and Burrow led offense rather than a run it down your throat, vanilla Les Miles offense.
Finally, we have an offense that has multiple ways to beat you. Let them put 6 or more db's out there to stop the pass. I bet you that they will get tired picking themselves off their asses after getting trucked!!
Finally, we have an offense that has multiple ways to beat you. Let them put 6 or more db's out there to stop the pass. I bet you that they will get tired picking themselves off their asses after getting trucked!!
Posted on 9/4/19 at 10:46 am to BPTiger
quote:No, no they are not. Checking down to the flank has nothing to do with a team's ability to run the football. I think we have some athletes in the backfield, no doubt, but checking down to a RB in the flank while our Oline gets destroyed is a completely different thing.
What they fail to do is look at little further down in the stats. All five RB combines to catch 12 passes for another 102 yards. None of these were downfield throws. These are essentially runs.
Posted on 9/4/19 at 10:48 am to BPTiger
They are also basing it off of 2018 when LSU did not have its usual RB talent. I think LSU is back to having weapons in the backfield.
Posted on 9/4/19 at 10:48 am to OchoDedos
quote:
Texas is vulnerable to the run. While not a fan of Big 12 football, their defenses are designed to stop that quick shot, pistol type offense. Tigers will definitely have to establish the run. It shouldn't be hard, Tigers have had success against TCU and ATM in the past.
The "the defense is designed to stop the pass" narrative is more interesting.
Texas Gave up over 250 yards passing 7 times last year
Gave up 2 or more TDs 7 times.
QBs on the season were 300/496 3600 yards 26 TDs and 12 interceptions.
Good passing offenses passed all over them. Good running offenses ran all over them.
Their defense is pretty much proportional to the talent they face.
Great measuring stick.
Posted on 9/4/19 at 10:50 am to BPTiger
So, what's the difference between a "narrative" and a "talking point"?
Asking for an English major.
Asking for an English major.
Posted on 9/4/19 at 10:57 am to OchoDedos
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Texas is vulnerable to the run. While not a fan of Big 12 football, their defenses are designed to stop that quick shot, pistol type offense. Tigers will definitely have to establish the run.
Interesting isn’t it, that our new offense might be more like what Texas is used to seeing, and our old offense might have caused a more clear mismatch.
Not that I’d advocate going back to that 1-trick pony. Just awfully ironic.
This offense has a ton more potential too.
This post was edited on 9/4/19 at 10:58 am
Posted on 9/4/19 at 11:19 am to BPTiger
I wasn't pleased with our running Saturday. I thought we would really gash them in the 2nd half since they had to be gassed. Hopefully the running game improves
Posted on 9/4/19 at 11:32 am to BPTiger
Does anybody think it might be that Coach O and the offensive brain trust may have been holding back on the run in the GASO game? given that Aranda only showed 1 of 15 defensive sets I think it very likely the Offense only wanted to get all the backs used to running and catching out of the new spread offense.
We could have a very big day on Saturday running the ball after a few passes spread out the Shorthorn defense.
We could have a very big day on Saturday running the ball after a few passes spread out the Shorthorn defense.
Posted on 9/4/19 at 11:36 am to TigerMuskyFanMinneso
LSU averaged 4.0 yards/carry against Georgia f'n Southern. I don't think its unreasonable for Texas fans to question whether LSU can run the ball effectively.
Maybe LSU can run the ball, but we weren't very good at it last year (LSU ranked 91st in the nation last year in rushing avg at 4.01) and until we prove we can do it, there's no reason to assume we can.
Maybe LSU can run the ball, but we weren't very good at it last year (LSU ranked 91st in the nation last year in rushing avg at 4.01) and until we prove we can do it, there's no reason to assume we can.
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