re: LSU Nick Foles story

Nick Foles wouldn't be where he is today if he'd come to LSU. I hate saying that, but it's the truth.

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allowed by the head coach.
Miles was open to an offensive team then.

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Miles fought Fisher tooth and nail until he bailed. Fisher should have gotten the job instead of Miles. If he would have, LSU would have two or more Nattys than we do today.

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10 years of evidence?
Which 10 are those?

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Well if you are that blind, then I’m sorry I can’t help you.

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Here's what I saw- whenever we had a QB on roster good enough to make an NFL practice roster (Russell, Flynn, Mett), Miles would allow the offense to open up.

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Yeah, you were smoking a lot of crack in those years.

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He WOULD have allowed that with Perilloux, but Ryan chose to be an idiot instead.

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Like I said, bottle up that shite you are smoking and sell it, you’ll get rich.

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He initially tried to do that with Lee, but that threatened to reverse every success the program had made, so he shut that down and rode the run game and the defense, with JJ. After Mett, we were in a similar situation with Johnson and Harris; and he did try with Harris, but the light never came on.

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LSU under Miles was completely incapable of developing QBs. As for as Mett goes, after his piss poor junior year, he learned his lesson and did his own thing regardless of the piss poor coaching staff. It was not like LSU was going to bench him and play someone else. He also had nothing to lose and everything to gain.

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I don't care where the QBs come from, it only matters who was here. If Foles was here, he'd have been the best guy on the roster, would have played, and would have been allowed to pass if he didn't pull a Lee out there.

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It’s a damn good thing Foles was never offered by LSU because if he would have come here, he never would be where he is at today. That guy really lucked out.

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Space Cowboy

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wow, you definitely have a vendetta against Miles.

I love how we've had several potent offenses here during his tenure (06 with Russell, 07 Flynn, 13 Mett), all had great years. And yet because Miles was HC, we must accept they sucked.

Are you going to now say that LSU was terrible from 05 to 16, and is only now returning to it's former Sabanesque glory after this miserable decade?

Wasn't Brady a 3*?

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wow, you definitely have a vendetta against Miles.

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Wow...you are one of his biggest Les Miles butt lickers on the planet.

Like I said, whatever you are smoking, bottle it up and put it for sale. You will become very rich.

By the way, I wonder why no ADs will touch that incompetent with a 10-foot pole and avoid him like he has the plague even though he claims constantly he wants to coach again if he was all that? It's because he wasn't all that, as LSU won because of the program and despite the drag that Les Miles was on the program.

Had Jimbo been promoted to head coach, on the other hand, as opposed to the hiring of Les Miles, we would have at least two more Natty's in the bank today easily, and we wouldn't have suffered all those 8 & 4 and 9 & 3 boring seasons as well.

Hell, most of the time after watching a Les Miles coached football team win a game, it usually felt like a loss. When he was finally fired and O and Ensminger took over the team, it was the first time in 12 years that LSU was fun to watch again.

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Les Miles would have recruited him as a WR.

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NO! Les Miles would have MOVED HIM to WR after he reported.

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Wow...you are one of his biggest Les Miles butt lickers on the planet.

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WTF ?

Yes, I acknowledge that Miles' tenure here was the best period I've seen LSU in my lifetime. Dude is now gone. We're in a different time. I don't care whether he has a job now or not.

None of which affects this discussion- we're talking about if Foles came here, would it have changed things.

Miles allowed an open offense during Jimbo's tenure as OC, as evidenced by the numbers Russell put up.
He CONTINUED to allow an open offense when Crowton came here, as evidenced by the numbers Flynn put up.
He planned to allow Perilloux to run an open offense.

He didn't open up the offense under Hatch, because Hatch physically could not make the throws.
He did initially allow Lee to throw the ball, but stopped that when there were pick-6's mounting all over the place. Remember, 7 ints for TDs by Lee that year.

Now, let's go back and look at the Foles situation again; he started in 2007. He would have been a freshman on the BCS title team, behind Flynn and Perilloux. He likely redshirts that year if he's here.

If he's here, he's then competing with Hatch, Lee and Jefferson in 2008, as a redshirt frosh. We already know JJ was being held back to redshirt, as LSU waited until the Ole Miss game to finally put him in instead.
We know they started Hatch ahead of Lee, because Lee just wasn't ready and couldn't read defenses.

There's a good chance that Foles could read defenses better than Lee, and he's clearly more talented than Hatch. So there's a lot of circumstantial evidence he'd be the starter. He most definitely would have gotten his chance, based on the way things played out that year. If he were to have shown that he wouldn't lead the nation in pick 6's, he probably continues the next year as the starter again, and we'd see a more open passing game.

If you plot his career against LSU's seasons, Foles would have played through the 2011 season, and you'd then have him bridging the gap between Flynn to Mettenberger. And again, looking at history, Mettenberger was allowed to throw the ball downfield.

What does any of this have to do with being a Miles lover or hater, I dunno.

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Hell, most of the time after watching a Les Miles coached football team win a game, it usually felt like a loss. When he was finally fired and O and Ensminger took over the team, it was the first time in 12 years that LSU was fun to watch again.

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Dude, you sound like a pathetic sack of shite, just being honest. I'm sure you sat and pouted in the corner during the 2005 season where we went 11-2 and blew Miami out 40-3 in the bowl, 2006 when we went 11-2 and blew Notre Dame out in the Sugar 41-14, and 2007 when we went 12-2 and blew Ohio State out for the national title. And 2011 when we went undefeated through the regular season, beating all comers. That tells me all I need to know of your "fandom", that those seasons felt like losses to you.