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Posted on 12/31/25 at 10:12 am to
Posted by mcspufftiger7
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 12/31/25 at 10:12 am to
The Reed loss was much more significant last year compared to this year. He was our only experienced post player and could also hit the 3. He could pull the bigs out which opened up the lane once he was injured you had Collins and Chest who had little to no offense at all. They packed the lane daring them to shoot. This year coming off the injury he still wasn’t 100% but he would have been good for 8-10 pts and 4-6 rebounds a game and would have still been a 3 point threat. Miller would also have more room to maneuver when Reed would move outside. He was a key depth piece this year. But people who supposedly know basketball on here are ignorant to this point.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
288690 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 10:13 am to
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would frame it that he was a significant loss that was overstated.


And you would be wrong
Posted by lsudave1
Baton Metairie
Member since Jan 2005
11671 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 10:28 am to
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and didnt we in fact know just that, that we were funded around the level of the other cellar dweller south Carolina?


Then why have McMahon’s recruiting classes generally been in the top half of the conference? I do not believe the lack of funding rumors to be fully true. MM’s first recruiting classes ever here was ranked higher than many of WW’s.
Posted by mcspufftiger7
Member since Oct 2020
3243 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 10:41 am to
It is the portal where LSU has lacked funding. I don’t care what rankings say. Players prove their worth on the court. Notice Chest has done nothing at OM yet was supposed to be the top player in LA when he came out. This years transfers have been the most productive in Mcmahons 4 years and coincidentally the year they increase funding to basketball. Go figure. I know it goes against the narrative of the people that wanted him fired. That’s why I choose to judge him on this year. Like I said if he doesn’t make the tournament it’s time for a change.
Posted by Circle K Beggar
Somewhere in the lower 48
Member since Feb 2011
7468 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 11:02 am to
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I don’t care what rankings say


Because it’s inconvenient for your fairy tale.


McMahon has a 14-40 SEC record. Todd Golden who was hired in the same cycle as McMahon won the National Championship in Year 3. Here we are in Year 4 of McMahon begging, hoping and praying he just makes the tournament. Did his first three years not count? You can turn a program around in two years now. This isn’t 1993, Grandpa.
Posted by lsudave1
Baton Metairie
Member since Jan 2005
11671 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 11:03 am to
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It is the portal where LSU has lacked funding


That’s only applicable to last year. We finished with the 11th and 16th best transfer classes in 2022 and 2023 respectively. The difference is other coaches are looking for players in the portal that fit their system on a more consistent basis. This is the first season MM has seemed to do that better.
Posted by mcspufftiger7
Member since Oct 2020
3243 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 11:12 am to
When you are limited in money you are limited in the level of talent you can get. Rankings on players are wrong all the time. Corey Chest is a perfect example. The only fantasy here is that LSU was spending comparable money to the top half of the conference last 3 years. Didn’t happen. So suddenly when they commit to funding basketball McMahon gets players that fit his system. And anyone who says Reed injury last year wasn’t a major blow to that team understands nothing about basketball. They are casual fans who only look at wins and losses.
Posted by Circle K Beggar
Somewhere in the lower 48
Member since Feb 2011
7468 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 11:14 am to
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They are casual fans who only look at wins and losses.


Holy crap…..just…..wow
Posted by mcspufftiger7
Member since Oct 2020
3243 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 11:29 am to
Yep. Same thing I said when someone said losing Reed wasn’t an issue. Wow!
Posted by lsudave1
Baton Metairie
Member since Jan 2005
11671 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 11:45 am to
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They are casual fans who only look at wins and losses


I’d like you to give me a detailed breakdown of McMahon’s on-court philosophy. You seem to be the ultimate expert of basketball on this board.
Posted by jamarr
Member since Jul 2019
1258 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 11:53 am to
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Then why have McMahon’s recruiting classes generally been in the top half


partially based on volume. when you lose all but two players you bring in more players, which makes the rank better.

the rankings are not a team net, like players out, players in. if you lose more you need to replace more.

and probably the cost of the players is more accurate than the media rankings
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66848 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 11:53 am to
Multiple top 15 classes says otherwise
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66848 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 11:55 am to
He keeps denying the class rankings are now both HS and portal combined even though he’s been told countless times. He’s just dishonest, plain and simple.
This post was edited on 12/31/25 at 11:57 am
Posted by Circle K Beggar
Somewhere in the lower 48
Member since Feb 2011
7468 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 11:55 am to
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Multiple top 15 classes says otherwise


Stop with these facts. Don’t you know that poor little Matt had to deal with crippling sanctions?
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66848 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 11:56 am to
lol oh yea, more fantasies
This post was edited on 12/31/25 at 11:57 am
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
17864 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 12:02 pm to
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BTW, did you go by the name of Bengal _____ same first name as a famous golfer in the 50s and 60s, on the Tiger's Lair?


That is correct sir and you?
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66848 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 12:05 pm to
How’s the podcast coming? Can’t wait for the Seneca Knight episode.
Posted by John cocktoasten
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2018
450 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 12:09 pm to
Easy SEC schedule… If he can’t do it this year, he ain’t gonna do it
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
17864 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 12:09 pm to
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And you would be wrong


Possibly Lester, but I don't think so. I think we're splitting hairs to some extent but HUGE is the way you framed it and that I disagree with that as well as the degree to which it was understated.

I'll put it another way, if losing a player who was averaging 11 points and 6 rebounds in 8 games against a modest OOC schedule last year was a HUGE loss, which the way I perceive it translates to a season crushing loss... then the foundation for the program was not where it needed to be in year 3....IMHO.



Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66848 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 12:10 pm to
He doesn’t watch basketball.
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