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re: LSU last 2 possessions BK got too conservative

Posted on 9/2/25 at 10:01 pm to
Posted by SOL2
Dallas burbs
Member since Jan 2020
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Posted on 9/2/25 at 10:01 pm to
It was good enough
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 9/2/25 at 10:02 pm to
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1st game, inexperienced Oline, you're strangling the life out of them. I think it was correct in this situation.
Also with suspect Refs on the field, keep it low risk.
Posted by QB
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2013
7795 posts
Posted on 9/2/25 at 10:05 pm to
NO, it is called putting unnecessary pressure on your defense. It is one thing to be conservative, but you have to at least try, and be safe about it. BK was waaaaay too conservative. He admitted he made a mistake at halftime by not kicking the FG. I hope he realizes the same about not controlling the game that he preaches. Do what you preach.
Posted by DraggingPride
Member since Jul 2024
117 posts
Posted on 9/2/25 at 10:06 pm to
He closed out the first half way too aggressive, trying to go for it on 4th and 1 in hopes of spiking it to kick a field goal he already could have kicked with no tmeouts.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66525 posts
Posted on 9/2/25 at 10:09 pm to
That made no sense, you’re not inside the 5, you burned your timeout and couldn’t even get lined up and you needed two scores to win the game anyway. Take the points and move on.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66525 posts
Posted on 9/2/25 at 10:12 pm to
Just get in a heavy set, run your short yardage stuff, use some jet sweep action to hold the LBs and give you some info and if you want to try and pop one or they’re crashing hard, use the jet.
Posted by Basura Blanco
Member since Dec 2011
11418 posts
Posted on 9/2/25 at 10:17 pm to
I thought he was not conservative enough by not kicking the FG at the half. Even getting the first down on that play, we have 9 seconds, have to ground the ball leaving one shot at the end zone. Not much upside to the decision.

Not going for it on our possession where we punted from their 39 with 5 mins left was too conservative imo. Hindsight it looks worse as we had a 19 yd net punt.

Other than that its hard to fault playing the clock in a game where Clemson had 10 pts on a negative yard drive and a bad call aided touchdown.
Posted by Tigerstark
Parts unknown
Member since Aug 2011
6855 posts
Posted on 9/2/25 at 10:33 pm to
Didnt we throw on first down of our last possession ? Could they have been more aggressive? Sure. But I don’t feel they went ultra conservative.
Posted by Hampton
Member since Oct 2020
2534 posts
Posted on 9/2/25 at 10:40 pm to
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NO, it is called putting unnecessary pressure on your defense. It is one thing to be conservative, but you have to at least try, and be safe about it. BK was waaaaay too conservative. He admitted he made a mistake at halftime by not kicking the FG. I hope he realizes the same about not controlling the game that he preaches. Do what you preach.


This exactly
Posted by Lacreus
30A
Member since Aug 2025
680 posts
Posted on 9/2/25 at 10:45 pm to
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It's times like this that I really wish we had a seasoned OC. It was a bone-headed call. Sloan did call a few nice misdirection plays, but I severely disagree with the poster who called his play calling in this game a "masterclass." I'm cautiously optimistic, but let's see what he comes up with against Florida in two weeks.


Exactly why I’m not sold on the idea that this will be the “year”. Defense will only carry a team so far in today’s world of college football and Sloan is still our OC.
Posted by Lacreus
30A
Member since Aug 2025
680 posts
Posted on 9/2/25 at 10:57 pm to
Kelly pulled the exact same kind of “play-not-to-lose” crap in those final two minutes like he did against USC and it was painfully obvious. It’s no different from what Miles did in the 2012 home game against Alabama.
Posted by Superfluous Tiger
Houston
Member since Nov 2021
933 posts
Posted on 9/2/25 at 11:03 pm to
I don’t get going conservative on BOTH offense AND defense. Clemson had a legit chance to tie it. We won in spite of the play calling not because of it.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
83153 posts
Posted on 9/2/25 at 11:08 pm to
The last drive was conservative. We couldn’t get a first down to kill the clock. It was frustrating, but I get it. Imagine if we threw an INT. Then everyone would go insane.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
83153 posts
Posted on 9/2/25 at 11:11 pm to
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It’s no different from what Miles did in the 2012 home game against Alabama.


Still haunts me. We needed just one fricking first down. I think we needed just one yard to get that last first down.
Posted by Tigerpride18
Lakewood Colorado
Member since Sep 2017
32119 posts
Posted on 9/2/25 at 11:18 pm to
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Didnt we throw on first down of our last possession


1st and third down
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
83153 posts
Posted on 9/2/25 at 11:21 pm to
Huh, how about that. I could’ve sworn we just ran it all three downs on the last drive and punted it back to them.
Posted by Tigerpride18
Lakewood Colorado
Member since Sep 2017
32119 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 12:28 am to
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Huh, how about that. I could’ve sworn we just ran it all three downs on the last drive and punted it back to them.


remember ,we ran a screen on first down for no gain then ran it on second for a loss and then dumped it off to the rb on 3rd for a gain of a few

the drive before that we would have had the ball at midfield but we had a hold on the return and that put us inside our own 20. we ran a fake bubble and go which they werent fooled on so nuss had to throw the screen to the wr who had to catch it because it was thrown backwards and would have been a fumble if not caught,we lost 7 on that throw so our whole drive was screwed so we ran it on either 2nd or 3rd or both. we had to be conservative in that situation so we could at least run some clock.

for the most part we were conservative because of the plays we lost yardage on ,on first or second down.
the penalty on the punt return plus the losses dictated that we be conservative because the last thing you want is multiple incompletions that stop the clock. we were running pass plays that we were certain would be completed so we would be able to burn clock
This post was edited on 9/3/25 at 12:35 am
Posted by Lcguy
Member since Jan 2020
1946 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 12:32 am to
With that defense that was the best call. Wind as much clock as possible.
Posted by Tigerpride18
Lakewood Colorado
Member since Sep 2017
32119 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 12:37 am to
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I think we needed just one yard to get that last first down.


no..the last drive we dumped it off to the rb on 3rd and longer than 10 ...it was a 3 and out.
I dont think we were even within a few yards of a first on either of the last two drives.

losses on early downs dictated play calls
Posted by Morpheus
In your Dreams
Member since Apr 2022
7249 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 12:43 am to
I agree with this.

Team has to know when it’s time to put the other team away.
Not as much emphasis on keeping the ball in our possession with great drives at the end of the game like we could have.
We have tons of weapons and it was very conservative.

It worked, but still.
This post was edited on 9/3/25 at 12:46 am
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