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LSU is not, has never been “next year U”

Posted on 11/28/18 at 5:07 am
Posted by BornKjun
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2008
954 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 5:07 am
It’s historically/recently been every 4 years U.

Miles & Co. f-ed up 2015. We’ll see what Orgeron does in 2019.

2015 Depth Chart

It’s silly that people are saying “next year U” this particular year when expectations were pretty low this year. Last year, not many people were saying, “next year is our year.” In fact, most were saying 2019 all along.

With that said: Can’t wait ‘til next year!






This post was edited on 11/28/18 at 5:55 am
Posted by LSUInTheBR
Member since Oct 2017
789 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 5:27 am to
Next Year U gonna Next Year U.
Posted by JohnnyU
Florida
Member since Nov 2006
12350 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 5:36 am to
quote:

LSU is not, has never been “next year U”
It’s historically/recently been every 4 years U.


We aren't even "next year U". LSU hasn't been inhabiting the conversation of top teams with championship potential for some time. No one respects the program's offense enough to warrant consideration as "next year U". Only "pollyanna" fans looking through P&G colored glasses believe "next year" is THE year.
Also, just because '03,'07' and '11 were the years we made it to ship doesn't mean shite. To be considered elite you have to be in the discussion annually.
I'm expecting more of the same next year. Same OC and scheme. Same middling line play. Similar outcomes. Where is the catalyst for change and breaking through?
Posted by BornKjun
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2008
954 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 5:41 am to
quote:

To be considered elite you have to be in the discussion annually


How many schools are elite by this definition? 2?

quote:

Where is the catalyst for change and breaking through?


Experience is a HUGE factor in college. Basically, the entire offense was young this season.

2018:

1st year Center
1st year starters at G & T
Giles- 1st year at LSU
2 true freshmen stud WRs- Chase/Marshall
2 1st year starters at RB (easiest to play though)/Stud freshmen RBs committed to help out next year
1st year QB

Defense will be good again in 2019. White and Greedy will be greatly missed but should be able to get the job done w/o them back.

If you don't know much about LSU, don't post stuff acting like you do. There's not much difference between LSU and Notre Dame, Oklahoma, Michigan, etc. LSU plays in the SEC. Put LSU in any other conference and LSU is in the playoff almost annually..
This post was edited on 11/28/18 at 5:56 am
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 6:22 am to
quote:

Experience is a HUGE factor in college. Basically, the entire offense was young this season.

2018:

1st year Center
1st year starters at G & T
Giles- 1st year at LSU
2 true freshmen stud WRs- Chase/Marshall
2 1st year starters at RB (easiest to play though)/Stud freshmen RBs committed to help out next year
1st year QB

Defense will be good again in 2019. White and Greedy will be greatly missed but should be able to get the job done w/o them back.

If you don't know much about LSU, don't post stuff acting like you do. There's not much difference between LSU and Notre Dame, Oklahoma, Michigan, etc. LSU plays in the SEC. Put LSU in any other conference and LSU is in the playoff almost annually



These are all facts but the average nega cant see past their hateful noses. They'd rather ignore that and shite on the coach.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
84124 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 6:23 am to
Oh look, it's the douche that said we had talent all off season only to now say we have no talent. Keep moving the goal posts.

This post was edited on 11/28/18 at 6:24 am
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72734 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 6:30 am to
Lol

Line gave up higher sack ratio LAST YEAR than this year.

A bunch of receivers on last years team came
Back with more experience and time in system.

You conveniently left those facts out

A much more talented qb came
In this year also

Team is more talented this year than last save the RB spot.

Keep moving goal posts tho. Congrats!
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 6:38 am to
quote:

Oh look, it's the douche that said we had talent all off season only to now say we have no talent. Keep moving the goal posts



So I missed on the talent. They didn't have what I thought they have or maybe they aren't ready to play or whatever. With the information that I had then that was my opinion. After seeing them play I changed that opinion because they were terrible. This isn't the gotcha that you think it is but continue to throw it up there. It's hilarious.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 6:41 am to
quote:



Line gave up higher sack ratio LAST YEAR than this year.

A bunch of receivers on last years team came
Back with more experience and time in system.

You conveniently left those facts out

A much more talented qb came
In this year also

Team is more talented this year than last save the RB spot.

Keep moving goal posts tho. Congrats





fricking clown
Posted by CanIPlay636
Member since Sep 2010
1193 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 6:41 am to
quote:

LSU is not, has never been “next year U”


quote:

With that said: Can’t wait ‘til next year!


Man, you can't make this stuff up
Posted by jbro12
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2015
563 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 6:47 am to
I see good points with both sides of these arguments. OP made some good points, so did you. That said, there’s a reason most picked this team to win 6-8 games. Yes the talent was there, especially with the newcomers, but everything would’ve had to come together perfectly for us to have a championship caliber team. In the end, that falls on the coaching staff. I’m not an O hater but have never been his biggest supporter either. I want to see what he does in the offseason. If he wants to correct the issues, he’ll make some significant changes, not just add another analyst. As much as I hate saying it, next year will truly tell us which direction the program is heading and if O can be the one to get us back in the championship hunt. 10 wins is a minimum next year with who we have coming in and coming back.
Posted by BigSquirrel
Member since Jul 2013
1880 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 6:51 am to
Fat Bastard, that might be the dumbest thing I’ve ever read. And I’ve read SEVERAL posts here before.

Sack ratio is as much on the QB as it is on the offensive line. Are you actually saying this year’s line is better than last year’s? LOL, who exactly is better than ANY starter from last year?

A bunch of receivers came back who had never started, and your top WR had been on the shelf for a year....

The ....next year will be better talk, you guys need to open your fricking eyes, that was this year. 6-6, 7-5 was the ceiling, remember? What happened? LSU got lucky those 9, or 10 technically, games they played in and won? And you know what.... next year IS our year. Look at the roster instead of trollololing.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162231 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 6:53 am to
quote:


How many schools are elite by this definition? 2?

3

Alabama
Clemson
Ohio State

Those are the only 3 teams over the last 4 year period that have been in the discussion annually
Posted by Croozin2
Somewhere on the water
Member since Dec 2004
3192 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 6:59 am to
quote:

BornKjun


Checks out
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
14419 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 7:00 am to
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Lol Line gave up higher sack ratio LAST YEAR than this year. A bunch of receivers on last years team came Back with more experience and time in system. You conveniently left those facts out A much more talented qb came In this year also Team is more talented this year than last save the RB spot. Keep moving goal posts tho. Congrats!

To be fair we returned a total of 389 yards receiving from our WR spot. None were regular starters. Jefferson our best WR did not catch a ball last season.

As for QB. I think Burrow is more talented, but he's a 1st year starter that arrived this summer. Why do we think he's so much better though? Because he sat on tOSU bench? Etling was in his 3rd year as a starting QB, 2nd at LSU. It can't be HS ranking because the composite was Burrow (.9003) vs Etling (.8996). I don't think .0007 is that much of a difference.

And RB is not even in the same stratosphere. Guice was a potential Heisman candidate and Williams was much better that Brossette/CEH.

I'm fully on board with an OC change. Despite deficiencies which should not be glossed over, the offense was not put in the best position to succeed. We need a modern OC, no doubt. But, ignoring the huge turnover in offensive players and talent gaps is an incomplete analysis.

Now if you want to criticize the staff's ability to get an elite back last cycle or develop our roster QBs before the Burrow transfer or even OL talent/development, I think that's fair game.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162231 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 7:04 am to
quote:

A bunch of receivers on last years team came
Back with more experience and time in system.

Yeah but the top 2 on the team left

We had a ton of turnover on offense. I think a lot of us expected more because some of the returning receivers had experience but let's be honest with ourselves, most of us expected a lot of Giles.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
84124 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 7:07 am to
quote:

So I missed on the talent. They didn't have what I thought they have or maybe they aren't ready to play or whatever. With the information that I had then that was my opinion. After seeing them play I changed that opinion because they were terrible. This isn't the gotcha that you think it is but continue to throw it up there. It's hilarious.





Or maybe the coaches failed to utilize the talent that you were so sure we had. Of course that would require you to place any blame on the coaches, which we all know you're not capable of. You will make every excuse in the book and change your tune to be whatever it needs to be to not blame the coaches.

Posted by BarleyPop
Member since Nov 2016
702 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 7:47 am to
What does this have to do with anything in a conversation about youth and experience?

quote:

had talent all off season only to now say we have no talent


The team will be much better off next year with all the returning starters. That's football 101. Or, in the case of alot of posters, remedial football.
Posted by stapuffmarshy
lower 9
Member since Apr 2010
17507 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 7:48 am to
It's been next year u every yr except 58, 03 and 07
Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican
Member since Apr 2013
11166 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 7:51 am to
Exactly. LSU did well in a rebuilding season if you step back and look at everything the team overcame.

Losing 2 very winnable games is what makes it tough. Easily could have been a playoff team with a few breaks. Hopefully we get the breaks next year to go with an improved team.
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