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Posted on 11/7/24 at 8:39 am to
Posted by Septiger
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Posted on 11/7/24 at 8:39 am to
Gave you an upvote.
Posted by SEC Doctor
Member since Aug 2024
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Posted on 11/7/24 at 8:46 am to
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Jalen - stronger, great footwork , nice player. Not an above the rim guy.



Lol, what? Try to catch him on Sportscenter this morning, made Top 10 plays dunking over a guy.

Posted by ChEgrad
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 11/7/24 at 8:46 am to
We have lots of 5’11” to 6’3” guards. Missing the 6’5”-6’8” players.

Shot <30% from 3.

Passed the ball pretty well in general. Hustled.

Need a bigger inside defensive presence.
Posted by LSU1SLU
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 11/7/24 at 8:47 am to
Sears and Mike Williams will both give and be offensive help most if not every night.
Posted by polarbear6
Member since Mar 2011
631 posts
Posted on 11/7/24 at 8:49 am to
Try not to look at the stat sheet for Robert miller . I saw a true freshman that deflected a ton of balls , and a guy who always made the right pass . The offense and rebounding will come , he’s got a smooth looking jump shot and is very athletic . He’s gonna be a player
Posted by LSU1SLU
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 11/7/24 at 8:50 am to
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Try not to look at the stat sheet for Robert miller . I saw a true freshman that deflected a ton of balls , and a guy who always made the right pass . The offense and rebounding will come , he’s got a smooth looking jump shot and is very athletic . He’s gonna be a player


He did some small things well. When the game slows down more, I expect him and Reed to continue to compliment each other well.
Posted by sunnydaze
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 11/7/24 at 8:56 am to
Op doesn’t know what a streaky shooter means
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 11/7/24 at 9:24 am to
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We have to have bigs that can defend and alter shots


LSU had 7 blocks last night and many more altered shots...did you even watch the game?
Posted by mcspufftiger7
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 11/7/24 at 9:26 am to
Players are still feeling eachother out and learning their roles. What I do like is they aren't just settling for 3's and will drive it to the basket. They push the ball on offense and move it around crisply. They are hitting the boards more aggressively and I believe only allowed 3-4 second chances for ULM. Granted there was a talent gap but ULM had two 6'11' bigs so a little more competition than Loyola,.Reed may finally be taking that step up we have been waiting for. Haven't seen that stretch where he disappears for minutes at a time. We'll find out where they are when the play KState but they are definitely more athletic and long this year. Sad to see Ward leave but as deep as they are at guard someone was going to get left out. Not sure yet why it was Ward but they will be Ok without him. Going to have to lean on a couple of highly rated freshmen and Williams.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 11/7/24 at 9:26 am to
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We have lots of 5’11” to 6’3” guards. Missing the 6’5”-6’8” players.


V. Miller 6'5"
D. Bailey 6'5"
T. Green 6'7"
C. Chest 6'8"

Wut?
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 11/7/24 at 10:01 am to
Especially odd when we have exactly one guard who is 5'11" and 3 others all at 6'3".
Posted by GeauxTime9
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Dec 2010
6722 posts
Posted on 11/7/24 at 11:35 am to
My 02c on what I saw last night.

1. We need to keep in mind that ULM is picked to finish near the bottom of the Sun Belt.

2. The structure of this lineup mirrors the style of basketball McMahon played at Murray State. This is encouraging to me, hopefully he is more comfortable with this style and can have more success.

3. Jalen Reed is a dude. His footwork was fantastic, it looked like the game has slowed down for him. I expect him to have a really good year.

4. We seemed to struggle in half court situations. This team will not match up well with teams that like to slow it down and play in the half court.

5. The team played extremely unselfishly which is encouraging to me. I anticipate seeing several different double digit scorers each game.

6. I thought the freshman looked athletic and ready to contribute.

7. Corey Chest is a head scratcher, I was hoping he was going to be a contributor this year. I didn't see anything that pointed in that direction last night.

8. I hope Fountain can stay healthy, I love the effort he plays with.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
32129 posts
Posted on 11/7/24 at 11:41 am to
Kind of a lot of firm conclusions to draw from one game vs an overmatched opponent.

Cam was the good athlete we know he is and played a good game offensively except for the 4 turnovers. He's always been capable of a night like he had last night. Can he consistently play well is the key. Wright was able to take that step last year. Hopefully Cam can as well.

Sears never got a chance to get into any sort of rhythm because of the two early fouls.

Reed was the pleasant surprise of the night. Not simply because he scored 24, but how he did it. Physically he's gotten stronger. But the shots he took are the shots he should be taking. He's very good at finishing around the rim with either hand. Shooting 3's off the dribble and trying to be a 6'10 250lb SG is not his strength. He didn't do that last night. He got to the rim and finished. More than that, he wen 8-8 from the FT line! That's coming off a 4-5 performance in the exhibition game. The quality of opponent doesn't matter with respect to FT shooting. They can't guard you. He was a 52% FT shooter as a Freshman and 62% last year. The fact he's started 12-13 out of the gate is a GREAT sign and credit to him because being a good FT shooter simply requires the desire to put in a ton of work. It looks like he did.

It was nice to see the freshmen all play significant minutes. Not surprisingly, they all had moment of good play, and moments of bad. It's their first college game ever. That should be expected. They are going to be needed this season, so I hope McMahon continues to give them meaningful minutes. It's the only way to gain experience and get better.

The defense was ok. Not great in terms of consistent effort, but ok. Rebounding was fine. LSU has good length inside and the guards (Carter and Williams) will get involved on the glass. 12 is probably about 3 more TOs than you would like, but 4 of those were from true freshmen and another from Chest who was playing in his first game too. LSU was AWFUL about turning the ball over last year. Hopefully they can improve there this year because it killed them last season.

34 three point attempts seems like too many for this team. Particularly when you only shot 29%. But it may be that McMahon is going to give them a bit more freedom there early to either (a) develop some confidence or (b) figure out what kind of shooting team he has in a game situation. If they are jacking up 35 threes and shooting below 30% as they season goes on, that will be a problem. But for at least these first 2 games. Not a big deal.

ULM is not a good team. But, LSU did what good teams are supposed to do to bad teams....control most of the game and end with a comfortable victory. That said, let's not start hanging a banner just yet. LSU won by 46 on opening night last year...then lost to Nicholls St 3 days later. If baseball is like a marathon, basketball is kind of like the 1600M race and LSU just broke from the starting blocks.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 11/7/24 at 12:15 pm to
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Especially odd when we have exactly one guard who is 5'11" and 3 others all at 6'3".


Sears and Carter are both small guards who will probably be in the top 3 on the team in shot attempts, and LSU started a guard at the 3 last night. They aren't exactly big in the backcourt
Posted by RoyalWe
Prairieville, LA
Member since Mar 2018
3757 posts
Posted on 11/7/24 at 12:18 pm to
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And with Matt MacMahon wearing a suit last night for the first time he does too. Strictly business
I noticed that too. Different tone. Coach Patrick also brings needed support.
Posted by ChEgrad
Member since Nov 2012
3572 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 11:24 pm to
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Especially odd when we have exactly one guard who is 5'11" and 3 others all at 6'3".


The major portion of playing time was with a small team. At least, that was my perception. We will see if this changes. Probably will need to.
Posted by HurricaneCamille
Member since Oct 2024
851 posts
Posted on 11/10/24 at 8:11 am to
In ENGLISH, please.
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