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re: LSU has reached 80% vaccination rate

Posted on 7/19/21 at 8:42 pm to
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 7/19/21 at 8:42 pm to
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A more educated populace like a college campus will have a higher vaccination rate


Facts. How many of these students fell over and died from the big mean vaccine? It's the devil's formula.
Posted by lukestar
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Posted on 7/19/21 at 8:50 pm to
No reason it shouldn’t be 100%
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 7/19/21 at 9:08 pm to
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By your own statistics it’s not 1 in a million it’s and where between 2-10 in 100. That’s 90-98%. You’re now trying to claim it has a 99.9999% mortality rate.


No, you dipshit. That is the percentage of people that will die right then and never get out of the ICU. The chances of them getting out of the hospital is then taken off of that.

I believe normally 50%+- of people won't live a year if they are put a vent, with this... in China 98% were dying right there. This came up slightly in some countries but your looking at 90-95% death rate immediately. The chances of any of these people living to have any normal life is about the chances of a miracle i.e. religion.

The chances of any of these people living any meaningful life is close to 0%.

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Because you need your blood, just like you need oxygen.


You don't need all your blood to live.

Are you a moron or religious nut? I'm having a hard time figure it out.

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If the alternative is “letting them die” then the treatment becomes the most effective treatment.


No, because the treatment could cause them to die quicker. If someone has an inoperable condition, meaning they could do the operation but it will kill them... doesn't make it most effective. No treatment is more effective.

You're hooking up a person with a respirator, in which, they have a respiratory disease.
This post was edited on 7/19/21 at 9:11 pm
Posted by Tigahs24Seven
Charlie Kirk's America
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 7/19/21 at 9:10 pm to
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No reason it shouldn’t be 100%





My body, my choice.. That's why it shouldn't be 100%. This is AN EXPERIMENTAL VAX... being forced on athletes who die from Covid at lower rates THAN THE FLU. Learn to read.... In fact, go to the other thread on the Political Rant showing the highest Covid rates in the world today.. BY FAR... are in the 3 most highly vaxxed countries. Let that sink in.

Covid surge highest in most Vaxxed Countries.
This post was edited on 7/19/21 at 11:10 pm
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 7/19/21 at 9:16 pm to
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My body, my choice.. That's why it shouldn't be 100%. This is AN EXPERIMENTAL VAX... being forced on athletes who die from it at lower rates THAN THE FLU. Learn to read.... In fact, go to the other thread on the Political Rant showing the highest Covid rates in the world today.. BY FAR... are in the 3 most highly vaxxed countries. Let that sink in.

Covid surge highest in most Vaxxed Countries.




Basically, these people keep saying the vaccine works, but than act and project like it doesn't work.

If the vaccine works, there is no reason for mass or pre-illness testing, generally speaking. If the vaccine works, nobody is stopping them from getting the jab and being safe.
This post was edited on 7/19/21 at 9:18 pm
Posted by Turf Taint
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2021
6010 posts
Posted on 7/19/21 at 9:19 pm to
Team vax 80% - fans seem satisfied by this, evidenced by no uproar

If vax req’d of fans to watch same team that is at vax 80%, TD politics board roof would blow off.





Posted by Tigahs24Seven
Charlie Kirk's America
Member since Nov 2007
14392 posts
Posted on 7/19/21 at 9:21 pm to
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If the vaccine works, there is no reason for mass or pre-illness testing, generally speaking. If the vaccine works, nobody is stopping them from getting the jab and being safe.


Exactly.. It about control, government overreach and fear based mental illness.. It's not about Covid.
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 7/19/21 at 9:22 pm to
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Team vax 80% - fans seem satisfied by this, evidenced by no uproar

If vax req’d of fans to watch same team that is at vax 80%, TD politics board roof would blow off.



And for obvious reasons, if one has had the vaccine and believe it works than there is nothing to fear. If you don't want to get the jab, you can stay home if you believe your life is in danger.

Logically all this doesn't have to exist if the vaccine actually works. The whole 80 or 85% jabs to avoid testing makes even less sense, its 100% Idiocracy.

This isn't complex.
This post was edited on 7/19/21 at 9:23 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78096 posts
Posted on 7/19/21 at 9:39 pm to
Has anyone found a medical benefit to blood letting?

You’re talking about me being a religious nut or a moron, and your white knighting for literal bloodletting.

And again, your numbers don’t add up.
This post was edited on 7/19/21 at 9:41 pm
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 7/19/21 at 9:43 pm to
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Has anyone found a medical benefit to blood letting?


Actually there are things that bloodletting helps, of course, if you tell the person its a cure i.e. placebo effect might work as well.

This is why they have control groups with placebos.

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And again, your numbers don’t add up.


The numbers are the numbers, meaning if you have respiratory disease, putting them on a vent isn't going to help. Duhh. It wasn't a solution, never was... at that point they are dead.

You do realize people have conditions and diseases, and the hospital can't do anything for them right? You know they are dying, the send them home and tell them how to contact hospice.

This post was edited on 7/19/21 at 9:46 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78096 posts
Posted on 7/19/21 at 9:53 pm to
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This is why they have control groups with placebos.


You understand if you don’t outperform the placebo it means you’re not effective. If you’re looking only for the placebo effect go with sugar pills not bleedletting.

I doubt bloodletting would even perform as well as a placebo because your losing blood.

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The numbers are the numbers, meaning if you have respiratory disease, putting them on a vent isn't going to help. Duhh. It wasn't a solution, never was... at that point they are dead.


Unless they’re not, and again the numbers you’re citing aren’t 1 in a million or even miraculous. You keep saying 90-95% die in the icu and only 50% go one to leave the hospital. So 2.5-5% is taking those odds vs 0.

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You do realize people have conditions and diseases, and the hospital can't do anything for them right? You know they are dying, the send them home and tell them how to contact hospice.



If you’re being intubated they aren’t sending you home to contact hospice. The alternative is letting you just die right there.
This post was edited on 7/19/21 at 9:57 pm
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 7/19/21 at 9:58 pm to
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You understand if you don’t outperform the placebo it means you’re not effective. If you’re looking only for the placebo effect go with sugar pills not bleedletting.

I doubt bloodletting would even perform as well as a placebo because your losing blood.



You'll have to run tests, and publish results.

How do you know bloodletting wouldn't be effective, someone has common sense... just like what they figure out with vents.

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Unoeas they’re not, and again the numbers you’re citing aren’t 1 in a million or even miraculous.


They're not going to have numbers because the people are unlikely to ever leave the hospital. These people are dead, you certainly don't scream like manics to produce more vents that are more or less useless to the general public.

The reason why you stopped hearing about the vents stuff is they don't work, they're not a solution. They're dead people.

You are very ignorant as to end of life, those people are dead... meaning they might live another day or a few more hours... but their life is effectively over.

You're a religious nut i.e. we'll spend billions to try and save someone with a solution which isn't a solution.

They basically put them on the vents because their isn't anything else they can do with them. They than die and charge its use on the ledger. Rack'em and stack'em.

Putting them on a vent isn't a treatment, its a holding place until they can figure out where the body is going.



This post was edited on 7/19/21 at 10:02 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78096 posts
Posted on 7/19/21 at 10:09 pm to
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You'll have to run tests, and publish results.

How do you know bloodletting wouldn't be effective, someone has common sense... just like what they figure out with vents.


You’re literally arguing if someone can’t breath on their own it’s better to just let them die. Which is 100% less effective than the the vents.

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They're not going to have numbers because the people are unlikely to ever leave the hospital. These people are dead, you certainly don't scream like manics to produce more vents that are more or less useless to the general public.


If they all die in the hospital then the numbers should be very easy to track.

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The reason why you stopped hearing about the vents stuff is they don't work, they're not a solution. They're dead people.


They still use them.

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You're a religious nut i.e. we'll spend billions to try and save someone with a solution which isn't a solution.


How much do you think a vent costs? Also I have Health insurance that I oay Ford I better Get a fricking vent if I need one.

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They basically put them on the vents because their isn't anything else they can do with them. They than die and charge its use on the ledger. Rack'em and stack'em.


False. I’m letting you make up your own numbers and they don’t even support this. They still use vents.
Posted by Melvin
Member since Apr 2011
23535 posts
Posted on 7/19/21 at 10:13 pm to
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So, do I understand this correctly? Everyone wants the football players to get vaccinated so they can watch the games, but don't want to get vaccinated themselves? Otherwise I don't understand why so many people upvoted this thread and downvote the other vaccination threads.

I can actually remember the days when the rant and Politard board would laugh at anti-vaxers. Sadly those days are long gone and this place is a trash can of morons.
Posted by LSUAshlyn
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2013
616 posts
Posted on 7/19/21 at 10:24 pm to
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LSU has reached 80% vaccination rate


Sad day for the players when they have been manipulated into something with no evidence of effectiveness or safety in the name of politics.

Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
15923 posts
Posted on 7/19/21 at 10:28 pm to
Do you really think the SEC wants to test and possibly have games canceled and lose revenue? The 85% gives them cover to not test. Not everything is political plot.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78096 posts
Posted on 7/19/21 at 10:33 pm to
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Sad day for the players when they have been manipulated into something with no evidence of effectiveness or safety in the name of politics.


There is evidence of both.
This post was edited on 7/19/21 at 10:34 pm
Posted by Bayoutigre
29.9N 92.1W
Member since Feb 2007
5893 posts
Posted on 7/19/21 at 10:35 pm to
a whole generation of people will be ruined,pray for an antidote
Posted by Mats86
Member since Mar 2021
5289 posts
Posted on 7/19/21 at 11:42 pm to
The Vax threads on the rant are the best. This one is mild but still entertaining.
Posted by JustinBRLA
Melbourne, FL
Member since Sep 2006
1149 posts
Posted on 7/20/21 at 2:09 am to
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Definitely agree. According to those who make these policies, it means our team can magically not contract or transmit the virus.

Those teams with 79% vaccination, however…..gotta watch out for them.


I mean they say an 18 year old can consent, but not a 17 and a half year old. You wanna do away with that quantification as well?
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