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re: LSU has a blue chip ratio of 73%

Posted on 7/21/25 at 7:47 pm to
Posted by ImayGoLesMiles
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 7/21/25 at 7:47 pm to
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Louisiana recruits are typically highly underrated. I pay attention to this. How many players from Alabama are in the ESPN300 or top 247. Bama usually has 30% more players than Louisiana on any year in ESPN300 than Louisiana. Alabama has like 10% more people than Louisiana. However, Louisiana has like 25% more NFL players than are from Alabama.


Yeah. Recruiting sites have biases towards certain programs without question. Humans always have their favorites no matter what subject you're talking about...especially when it comes to player evaluation and certain teams. That's a fact.
Posted by Forever
Member since Dec 2019
6804 posts
Posted on 7/21/25 at 8:30 pm to
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What are you going on about?

How big of a douche do you have to be IRL to say something like this in a thread that doesn’t even warrant a response like that?
Posted by Howyouluhdat
On Fleek St
Member since Jan 2015
8935 posts
Posted on 7/21/25 at 8:34 pm to
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ESPN 300: 1.3x Bama born players has over Louisiana born players in ESPN300 NFL: 1.25x Louisiana born players outnumber Alabama born players in NFL



Stopped reading when I read ESPN300. They are the most irrelevant of the recruiting sites
Posted by brettamedee
Locust Grove, Georgia
Member since Jul 2013
427 posts
Posted on 7/21/25 at 8:36 pm to
It’s not wrong
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
1650 posts
Posted on 7/21/25 at 9:48 pm to
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the 2 starting QBs in the nc game last year were transfers
Which seems to support the notion that the transfers mostly even out amongst the top programs
Posted by Gulf Coast Tiger
Ms Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2004
20591 posts
Posted on 7/21/25 at 9:55 pm to
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It’s not wrong


We get credit for players that aren’t here and we don’t get credit for transfers in. How is it not wrong?

We still get credit for Walker Howard.
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
1650 posts
Posted on 7/21/25 at 10:07 pm to
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Louisiana recruits are typically highly underrated
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Louisiana should have more ESPN300 recruits than Alabama. Yet majority of classes I see AL outnumbering. It's all bias
This debate has already been pretty much decided

The BCR correlates very very well to the reality

Another study agreed

"Some of the best examples for the benefits of recruiting rankings are given by sports writers analyzing years of data. Clay Travis shows that during 1996-2014, every national championship team, except for Oklahoma in 2000, had at least two top 10 recruiting classes in the four years before the title. So, he concludes that, “football success has followed recruiting success.” Others evaluate teams based on the blue-chip ratio: the number of five-star and four-star players divided by total players. One analysis concluded that every national championship team from 2005-2013 had a blue-chip ratio above 50%. That is, over half of the roster was composed of blue-chip recruits."

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Louisiana has like 25% more NFL players than are from Alabama
the NFL is irrelevant in this discussion

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Bias that because University of Alabama players were great that players from Bama born players are great. Well, Bama recruited a shite ton out of state
This hurts your point. If it were true that players from that state were really so good, Bama wouldn't have recruited so heavily out of state. The so called "bama bump" is the exception, not the rule and Saban's recruiting proves it.

Is the recruiting ranking system perfect, absolutely not. And it definitely waxes and wanes. But at this point there's more than enough data to prove that it hits way way more than it misses. It's one huge reason why the teams that recruit the most stars win the most games. The programs that make a decision to win commit to a coach who is dedicated to recruiting and then the school pays for those top players. Way more often than not, it ends up in more wins.
Posted by lsuson
Metairie
Member since Oct 2013
15038 posts
Posted on 7/21/25 at 11:53 pm to
FACTS
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
19694 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 1:37 am to
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This isn’t true anymore They count the last 4 years of recruiting How many of those players have transferred out? Transferee in?

This makes no sense. It should be easy for them to figure this out. It’s who is on the current roster. Why should 4 years ago matter?
Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
46507 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 3:47 am to
Thanks Moscona
Posted by SOL2
Dallas burbs
Member since Jan 2020
8106 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 6:52 am to
I don't see Clempson on that list
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
62191 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 7:17 am to
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The blue chip ratio is a percentage of 4 and 5 star team has on its roster and it’s been consistent over the years that every team has at least a 50% ratio to win a natty. LSU has a 73% ratio this season


Is that an analysis if the roster or an analysis if the last several recruiting classes?
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
33208 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 7:20 am to
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It's confusing that you reference a stat where 6 teams have a better situation than LSU but then you say that LSU is in position to run the table. What about the other 6 in front of LSU? Are they not in a better position, according to that stat?


Something to consider in relation to that list- the top 3 are breaking in new starting QBs. A&M has a starter that, while he beat us when he came off the bench, struggled when teams game-planned for him and actually has less experience than Nuss. Texas has Arch and he does have some experience, but not a full season of starting.

QB is a premium position when it comes to winning titles and LSU has the most experienced guy on that list. That could be a leveling factor.

Does any this guarantee a title shot- absolutely not. But it does make LSU stand out on that list? Yes it does. And it should give them a legitimate shot to make the playoffs. From there- well, we just saw what can happen when a very good team comes together down the stretch and earns a shot to win it all. We weren’t the best team in college baseball for much of the season, but that doesn’t matter if you make it to Omaha and get the job done.
This post was edited on 7/22/25 at 7:29 am
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
33208 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 7:23 am to
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I don't see Clempson on that list


Clemson’s depth isn’t as strong after a couple of mediocre classes. But they’ve turned that around the last two years, have started using the portal, and have a great starting 22.

They may wear down over the season, but the depth won’t matter as much facing them likely fully healthy in game 1.
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
33208 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 7:26 am to
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We are getting credit for players that have transferred out just like every other school


We’ve only lost two legit SEC-starter level players in the last two years (Heard and Womack). This stat may skew heavily for some others who have lost more, but not this LSU team.
This post was edited on 7/22/25 at 7:30 am
Posted by Gulf Coast Tiger
Ms Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2004
20591 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 7:46 am to
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We’ve only lost two legit SEC-starter level players in the last two years (Heard and Womack). This stat may skew heavily for some others who have lost more, but not this LSU team.



We are still getting credit for every 4 and 5 star that was signed by LSU in the past 4 years. It is skewed for every team. A new format is needed for this
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
19067 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 7:58 am to
This wouldn't be hard to calculate correctly using the actual current roster on On3 or 24/7 composite.

ESPN should be disregarded altogether and portal/roster changes absolutely should be included.
Posted by pbro62
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2016
15178 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 9:34 am to
One thing is for certain give me as many blue chippers as possible to remain consistent and in the discussion every year…..see Alabama Ohio st Georgia
Posted by LSUbacchus81
Hendersonville, TN
Member since Aug 2007
5549 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 10:16 am to
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This isn’t true anymore

They count the last 4 years of recruiting

How many of those players have transferred out?

Transferee in?



People on this board don't want to acknowledge this part, bro.
Posted by cattus
Member since Jan 2009
15463 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 10:24 am to
It's hard to gauge with confidence now because of the transfer situation but what I do know is that the two teams ahead of us on that list beat us last year and the one below us we beat.
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