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re: LSU Fans - Thoughts on Ben Simmons?

Posted on 12/11/17 at 10:42 am to
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George
Member since Aug 2004
77965 posts
Posted on 12/11/17 at 10:42 am to
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representative of LSU


He was never this.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 12/11/17 at 10:54 am to
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That disappeared during critical moments of games.




Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 12/11/17 at 10:55 am to
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That disappeared during critical moments of games.




by all means bring up 1 instance and act like thats the norm.
Posted by basiletiger
lafayette, la.
Member since Aug 2007
2141 posts
Posted on 12/11/17 at 10:56 am to
Stromile Swift would have eaten Bob Pettit for breakfast.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
202875 posts
Posted on 12/11/17 at 11:07 am to
Well he vanished in the second half of the OU game... didn't even attempt a shot the last ten mins... winning that game alone and LSU makes the tourney.....
Posted by justice
Member since Feb 2006
54566 posts
Posted on 12/11/17 at 11:11 am to
Love Ben Simmons. It’s great to see a former tiger tearing up the nba. Geaux Ben
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
45122 posts
Posted on 12/11/17 at 11:11 am to
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It's like he wasn't even here.



Pretty much this. Dude didn't want to be here, not sure why he didn't just go play in Europe for one year.
Posted by Elleshoe
Wade’s World
Member since Jun 2004
143616 posts
Posted on 12/11/17 at 11:15 am to
Great representative of the university.
Posted by tigercraig
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2003
3539 posts
Posted on 12/11/17 at 11:16 am to
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I'm putting Maravich at the 2 and a one Mr. Chris Jackson running point.



Why? That seems completely backwards to me. CJ at the #2 would be phenomenal
Posted by TigerDM
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
1604 posts
Posted on 12/11/17 at 11:22 am to
Ben Simmons was going to find a school to do exactly what he did here. He would not go to Duke, KY or Kansas because they would make him play team basketball, not use the games to practice his skills for the NBA instead of what was best for the team. All of the above teams/coaches has put very highly ranked freshman on the bench because they were not playing hard enough or not in the best interest of the team.

The silver lining to the cloud was it speeded up JJ's exit so we could get a top coach like Wade here.
Posted by OU812
Greensboro, NC
Member since Apr 2004
12568 posts
Posted on 12/11/17 at 11:23 am to
Who?
Posted by ChewyDante
Member since Jan 2007
16918 posts
Posted on 12/11/17 at 11:27 am to
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Why? That seems completely backwards to me. CJ at the #2 would be phenomenal


Pete has greater length and Jackson strikes me as more PGish. Penetrate the lane and kick to Maravich outside for the 3 ball. I'm pretty sure we'd be incredible at those spots whichever way you do it.

Either way, Thornton ain't starting over either of those two. I honestly don't know shite about Bob Petit's game so I passed on swapping him out too. All I know is Tyrus, Glen Davis, Brandon Bass, and Stromile would all be savage in that spot as well.
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
155596 posts
Posted on 12/11/17 at 11:33 am to
Ben is more Pippen than Jordan in terms of drive and leadership. But he was a great player on what should have been a good team that was instead an average, poorly coached team.

If he didn't enjoy his college experience then it's on him. He didn't HAVE to go wherever his godfather coached. Conversely Tasmin Mitchell did the same thing, came to play for Butch, and had a great career. His "camp" may have put too much on his plate with the showtime thing, and that just intensified the focus of the microscope.

It's too bad that team couldn't have at least made the tourney and won a game. He'd probably at least be remembered more fondly similar to how UT fans think of Durant. You don't hear Tiger fans badmouthing Antonio Blakeney the way they do Ben; Blakeney fought as best he could till his last game. AB was always going 100% whereas Ben seemed content to go on cruise control (especially on D).

As time passes I hope more fans forget the ill will because it's dumb to carry it. Dude failed to deliver the massive expectations but he's developing into one of the best in the world. It's a shame it didn't work out but disowning the guy doesn't solve anything. His dad is probably the one that the haters should have beef with. Think of Ben the recruit: he couldn't wait to get here and was all LSU. Things went south and he left after 1 year which was always going to happen.
Posted by lsusportsman2
Member since Oct 2007
27232 posts
Posted on 12/11/17 at 11:37 am to
It's not his fault his head coach was an unemotional, brainless, incompetent buffoon.
Posted by DesertCajun
New Mexico
Member since Mar 2007
637 posts
Posted on 12/11/17 at 11:42 am to
None - one and done does not engender life long support
Posted by Tom Bronco
Austin, TX
Member since Jun 2011
2650 posts
Posted on 12/11/17 at 11:51 am to
He doesn't consider himself a representative of LSU or college ball for that matter. He was entertaining for awhile and led us to some wins but then the last month he was here he just threw in the towel and quit trying. No attempt at defense. He was really pissed that he got benched for not attending class. After all he was here to play basketball and not be a student.
Posted by GeologyGrad88
NW Arkansas
Member since Nov 2015
1027 posts
Posted on 12/11/17 at 12:04 pm to
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Stromile Swift would have eaten Bob Pettit for breakfast.


The NBA HOF begs to differ. Swift's career averages of 8.4 PPG and 4.6 RPG are not going to scare anybody.
Posted by basiletiger
lafayette, la.
Member since Aug 2007
2141 posts
Posted on 12/11/17 at 12:31 pm to
Different time. The athletes of today's world would dominate those of 40 years ago. It's not even debatable.

Stromile Swift was a big reason why the Tigers went from last place in the SEC west in 1998-99 to SEC Champions in 1999-2000. In that season, the Shreveport sophomore led LSU in scoring (16.2 ppg), rebounding (8.2 rpg), field goal percentage (.608) and blocks (95). His field goal percentage of 60.8 percent ties him at seventh all-time for a single season at LSU and his 95 blocks rank him fifth all-time. That year, Swift led the SEC in blocks and was third in scoring.

Swift was a big-game performer, notching 29 points and nine rebounds to knock off #5 Arizona as well as a 23-point 10-rebound performance in the second round of the NCAA tournament against Texas, a win that catapulted LSU to its first NCAA Sweet 16 appearance since 1987.

Swift concluded his stellar 1999-2000 season with Consensus First Team All-SEC honors, as well as the Co-SEC Player of the Year award. He was also a Consensus Second Team All-American before being selected No. 2 overall in the 2000 NBA draft by the Vancouver Grizzlies. In only two seasons, Swift remains the second-best shot blocker in LSU history with 130 blocks. He is also eighth all-time in field goal percentage with .560 percent.
Posted by jkylejohnson
Alexandria
Member since Dec 2016
14004 posts
Posted on 12/11/17 at 12:32 pm to
He went to LSU?
Posted by 756
Member since Sep 2004
14865 posts
Posted on 12/11/17 at 12:37 pm to
who?
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