re: LSU fanbase turns on Les Miles

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At least we aren't throwing the ball down the middle of the field over and over again and getting INTs that beat us. That is a major improvement over last year.

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maybe, but to completely abandon the middle pass would be foolhardy and make us predictable.

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the zooker is the best example i can think of in recent CFB

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Les doesn't have the same number of mind blowing terrible losses outside of maybe Arkansas the last two years. He has nothing on his resume at LSU as bad as Zook's loss to State...

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Don't we want an AD who is more pro-active and can make a move before it gets to that point? Again, not suggesting we fire Miles, but do we really need to wait until the shite hits the fan to make a change? Wouldn't that be too late?

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clearly administrators don't look at things the way we do and this is not the NFL where you just fire a guy who won you a Super Bowl because you are tired of him (Gruden/Shanahan)

imho the biggest single factor in determining the future of the LSU Football Program from an administration stand point is the TAF debt service, threaten that and shite gets real. Right now people are still buying their tickets for market prices, paying their ridiculous fees and not paying attention to the country's economy. Start putting a shoddy product on the field and make it easier for people to justify not paying the market rates and the revenue numbers go down, then a decision would have to made.

we are #4 in the country and undefeated, let's not lose sight of that

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Because you identify it and shut up the pie hole's of the 'sky is falling' crowd

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Saban didn't shut anyone up, he just sneered at them and then ignored them

I don't know what you were doing before you signed up in july 2005 but you obviously weren't reading this message board

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Foosball should be banned.

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by your command

DONE

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The defense was porous all season. Those results are justifiably unacceptable to most LSU fans.

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evidently they were unacceptable to Miles as well, since he cleaned out the defensive staff...all coaches make mistakes, you judge them by how quickly they act to fix the mistake. Major Applewhite, for example.

All i was trying to say was that the players looked at Bo more as the head coach than Miles. And since he has left we havent done so hot.

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And I'm saying that I don't think Bo Pelini had much to do with the fact that LSU had a very potent offense in 2007...and for the record, I'm a Bo P fan.

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I never said he had anything to do with the offense, i was making the point that they played hard for Bo,
we dont look like were putting to much effort in of late.

I still like Miles. I think we're playing horrible football but, I just like the guy

I have not turned on Les Miles.

Miles is recruiting and has recruited, not just well, but exceptionally well. That alone will give LSU a winning program and put butts in the seats.

Miles recognizes and acts on problems within the organization. Some successful coaches are loathe to fire coordinators. (Local examples: DiNardo and Mora.)

Miles hires well. Miles not only recognized the problem last year, he acted upon it, and he brought in what might well be the best available talent. (Crowton was another hire Miles made that was a pick up of some of the best available talent.)

Miles takes risks where necessary. Florida 2007, et al.

I know what Miles brings to the table. I'll take what we have over what might be available. I believe that you don't make a change for the sake of change. You make a change when you have a damn good reason to make a change. Right now, I don't see a compelling reason to make a change.

Moreover, even if we go 8-5 again. I'll still give Miles one more chance. I agree with Miles' decision to can RP for the sake of the program. And where we are right now is, in large part, a result of that decision.