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re: LSU coach Ed Orgeron to receive big raise in new contract extension, records show

Posted on 3/18/19 at 2:07 pm to
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 3/18/19 at 2:07 pm to
I think this contract extension reflects the fact that O is not that marketable at other CFB programs.

LSU is getting a lot of value here. It's okay to admit that Alleva got one right here.

I do want an upgrade at the AD position though regardless of the Coach O deal.
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 3/18/19 at 2:07 pm to
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If you're too stupid to see who that's not equivalent, that's on you. We are comparing years that we did not win our division. Stop trying to change the discussion.



Says the guy too dumb to realize playing in the Texas Bowl is not the same as playing in the FIESTA Bowl
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 3/18/19 at 2:08 pm to
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you're too stupid to see who that's not equivalent, that's on you


But you said it was equivalent
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 3/18/19 at 2:08 pm to
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But you said it was equivalent



No I didn't.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 3/18/19 at 2:08 pm to
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But we lost to teams we finished ranked behind, so do you really think we were the 6th best team in the country?

Was Florida better than Kentucky? They finished with the same record yet Kentucky beat Florida. Was Kentucky better than A&M? They lost to A&M but finished with a better record and ranked higher.

If we strictly went by overall records for rankings, UCF would have objectively been ranked in the top 2 at season's end with only 1 loss. But that's not how things work nor should they. I don't know why you want to die on the hill of all that matters is what the final record says. If LSU finished the season ranked at least 7th in all the major polls, you are more than welcome to disagree with the ranking, but that is an subjective opinion of yours.
This post was edited on 3/18/19 at 2:09 pm
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 3/18/19 at 2:09 pm to
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A slight one, sure.


So you're admitting that each year, especially when you get more conference home games in 1 vs. the other. Is different.

Thanks for playing.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 3/18/19 at 2:09 pm to
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So you're admitting that each year, especially when you get more conference home games in 1 vs. the other. Is different.
Goodness
This post was edited on 3/18/19 at 2:10 pm
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 3/18/19 at 2:10 pm to
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No I didn't.



You stated many times over 10-3 = 10-3 and since we didnt win the west or a title it's all the same regardless of ranking finish, bowl game, etc...

You are putting the criteria to judge a season based on only some of the facts, not all of them.
This post was edited on 3/18/19 at 2:11 pm
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 3/18/19 at 2:10 pm to
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You stated many times over 10-3 = 10-3




When comparing years that we didn't win our division.
Posted by namvet6566
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/18/19 at 2:11 pm to
So...who do you assholes think would do a better job??? Look at other Coaches with higher salarys and their record. Jimbo's record?
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 3/18/19 at 2:11 pm to
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So...who do you assholes think would do a better job??? Look at other Coaches with higher salarys and their record. Jimbo's record?



Jimbo who beat us with a less talented team in his first year? Yea, he'd do better
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 3/18/19 at 2:12 pm to
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When comparing years that we didn't win our division.



Except you're leaving out many relevant factors in looking at a season as a whole, like bowl game and poll finish.

To exclaim a season is "no different" to another when you finish 10 spots higher in the poll and play in the Fiesta Bowl vs. Texas Bowl, you're going to look pretty stupid.
Posted by BarnHater
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 3/18/19 at 2:12 pm to
Jumbo beat us last year you dumb frick.
Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 3/18/19 at 2:12 pm to
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So...who do you a-holes think would do a better job??? Look at other Coaches with higher salarys and their record. Jimbo's record?


Texas A&M doesn't have near the talent that LSU has

At least they don't yet
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 3/18/19 at 2:12 pm to
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Except you're leaving out many relevant factors in looking at a season as a whole, like bowl game and poll finish.


Those aren't relevant. The things within LSU's control are equal for those two years.
Posted by bencoleman
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 3/18/19 at 2:14 pm to
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Tell us how contracts work, Lester



Why don't you do it?


This ought to be good.
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
72333 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 2:14 pm to
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Those aren't relevant.




Sure, no idea why they even have the bowl games, and pecking order like they do. Also no reason to rank the teams and we always talk about them, and they facotr into things like playoffs and bowl games. Obviously irrelevant things.

You mean, they're irrelevant to you because it completely blows up your entire argument.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 3/18/19 at 2:15 pm to
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Those aren't relevant

In your opinion, they may not be. Other's disagree with that opinion and think they are. The CFP committee sure thinks rankings matter. In fact, they create their own rankings, and I'd say impressing them is pretty relevant. Who you beat and who you lost to is pretty important to them. They do not prescribe to the notion that all 10-3 records are the same, otherwise the team we beat in the Fiesta Bowl would have been in the CFP the past two years.
This post was edited on 3/18/19 at 2:19 pm
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
89137 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 2:15 pm to
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Sure, no idea why they even have the bowl games, and pecking order like they do.


I'm not sure why you're laughing when you're clearly just not comprehending what I'm saying.
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Also no reason to rank the teams and we always talk about them, and they facotr into things like playoffs and bowl games. Obviously irrelevant things.


No one said that.

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You mean, they're irrelevant to you because it completely blows up your entire argument.




You don't even comprehend the argument
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
72333 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 2:17 pm to
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You don't even comprehend the argument



Because it's a losing argument, it's easy to comprehend you have no idea what you're talking about.

Again, on one hand you argue 10-3 = 10-3 (Record = record no matter what), but then put your own specific qualifiers on why that could change, and not ALL the qualifiers on how people judge full seasons. Which, sorry to tell you, bowl games and final rankings matter a whole lot into that as it shows relative strength/season outcomes compared to others.
This post was edited on 3/18/19 at 2:18 pm
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