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re: LSU Can’t Ignore the Coming Coaching Salary Correction
Posted on 10/30/25 at 4:58 pm to ScotlandAve
Posted on 10/30/25 at 4:58 pm to ScotlandAve
Again, if money is privately funded and paid for.. How does that dip into the revenue sharing? The salaries will never correct themselves if guys with money are willing to outbid each other across the country.. Look no further on how we lost out on Underwood.
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Posted on 10/30/25 at 5:06 pm to lostinbr
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I don’t really think this part is relevant at all. It doesn’t really make any difference whether the funds are generated directly by the athletic department or “donated” to the athletic department by TAF. The cap makes a difference, but not the source of funds. ETA: TAF could just as easily fund revenue sharing if needed, as long as they have the income stream. It’s basically taking money out of one pocket to put in the other.
You people have a misunderstanding of what TAF is. Yes TAF is intertwined with the athletic department because they pay for stuff. But TAF is a a private non-profit. They pay for athletic scholarships, infrastructure, operations costs, etc. They do all of this through donations (some forced as the right to buy tickets from the athletic department).
The athletic department gets their money from the actual ticket sales, share of TV revenue, conference revenue (like bowl game rev share), Nike contract, etc. That athletic department revenue is what the athlete revenue share is based off of.
Posted on 10/30/25 at 5:43 pm to BigBinBR
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That athletic department revenue is what the athlete revenue share is based off of.
The revenue sharing cap is based on 22% of average P4 athletic revenue. It’s set at $20.5 million regardless of how much money the LSU athletic department makes. The only difference it makes is to the extent that an increase or decrease in LSU’s athletic revenue affects the overall P4 average next time the rev share cap gets recalculated (in 2 years).
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You people have a misunderstanding of what TAF is. Yes TAF is intertwined with the athletic department because they pay for stuff. But TAF is a a private non-profit. They pay for athletic scholarships, infrastructure, operations costs, etc. They do all of this through donations (some forced as the right to buy tickets from the athletic department).
The athletic department gets their money from the actual ticket sales, share of TV revenue, conference revenue (like bowl game rev share), Nike contract, etc.
I’m not misunderstanding anything.
My point is that the percentage of Kelly’s contract funded by TAF is irrelevant to the discussion. Actually if anything, a higher percentage of TAF funding makes the argument that “this money should be used for players” stronger - because funds from private donations could, theoretically, realistically be diverted to NIL.
Posted on 10/30/25 at 6:13 pm to ScotlandAve
Man, I really love your post.
Let’s not hold the bag again, you are so right that it’s coming.
Let’s not hold the bag again, you are so right that it’s coming.
Posted on 10/30/25 at 6:20 pm to ScotlandAve
Someone making sense. Is that allowed?
Posted on 10/30/25 at 6:53 pm to ScotlandAve
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Average SEC HC salary: $8.1M
Big Ten: $6.8M
ACC: $5.8M
The ACC must be dominating since they have all that extra cash to throw at players..
Posted on 10/30/25 at 6:59 pm to loogaroo
quote:You mean a great ROI?
Ironically it started here with Saban.
Posted on 10/30/25 at 7:02 pm to ScotlandAve
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Posted on 10/30/25 at 3:27 pm to NotaStarGazer
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Uh, but that $20 million does NOT include booster money right? My brother and I have been trying to find out like hell if the $20 million is a CAP or just a guaranteed "base amount". If the latter, then your argument falls apart immediately since $20 million isn't the total. I'm ASKING if what I'm saying is right.
It’s not a hard cap — you’re right that booster/NIL collective money can still flow on top of the $20M. But that actually strengthens the point, it doesn’t break it.
The $20M is the baseline revenue-share obligation tied to media rights and structured compensation — meaning that’s the minimum guaranteed player-comp amount LSU has to plan for on its books.
Boosters can add whatever they want, sure. But whether the total ends up being $20M, $30M, or $40M+ when you factor in donors… the math still points the same direction:
You can’t keep paying one coach $10M+ plus pay the roster plus keep expanding support staff plus compete with SEC/NFL facilities and recruiting budgets forever.
Something has to give. And historically, when labor costs go up, executive salaries normalize, not the other way around.
So even if $20M is just the “floor,” the trend still holds — player pay rising = coaching pay pressure.
The bubble doesn’t pop because of the exact number.
It pops because the business model changes.
The 20 mil is a max, set to increase by 3% each year and to be reevaluated every three years. NIL portion (over $600) must be registered with NIL Go and clear the Deloitte auditors as being fair market value, or players will be ruled ineligible. This is supposed to stop paying big $ for No Show jobs. 2 unnamed schools have been accused of cheating in a story that broke first week of October, but NCAA, as usual, has not commented on it.
Posted on 10/30/25 at 7:07 pm to onestonedpony
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NIL portion (over $600) must be registered with NIL Go and clear the Deloitte auditors as being fair market value, or players will be ruled ineligible. This is supposed to stop paying big $ for No Show jobs. 2 unnamed schools have been accused of cheating in a story that broke first week of October, but NCAA, as usual, has not commented on it.
I think this has to fall into the “believe it when we see it” category.
Also as I understand it (please correct me if I’m wrong) the clearinghouse only applies to NIL deals with collectives, not private boosters.
Posted on 10/30/25 at 7:15 pm to ScotlandAve
The $20 mil is the first year cap ... cap means the max that the university can allocate to all athletes The cap is expected to grow by 4% per year meaning the most a univ can pay the athletes next year .$20.8 mil. The univ can pay out less but according to current rules they cannot payout more. There is no tie in between the univ money and the booster nil money ... Yet ... but it is hard to imagine that there will not be some limitation in the future.
So you all think it was a good idea to compensate those poor players who were getting screwed by the universities ... turned in to a total cesspool that's getting worse.
So you all think it was a good idea to compensate those poor players who were getting screwed by the universities ... turned in to a total cesspool that's getting worse.
Posted on 10/30/25 at 7:39 pm to rar
Nobody’s arguing players shouldn’t get compensated — the issue is the structure, not the concept. We went from “schools are exploiting players” to “let’s build the most chaotic, poorly regulated marketplace imaginable and pray it works.”
Yes, there’s a $20M cap on school-funded comp and it rises ~4% a year. But pair that with totally uncapped booster NIL and you’ve basically created two competing payroll systems with no oversight, no competitive balance, and no long-term sustainability model.
Instead of a thoughtful reform, we got:
• A bidding war disguised as “amateurism”
• No guardrails
• No alignment between school cap + NIL money (for now)
• A system where money matters more than development, culture, or coaching
Players should absolutely benefit — nobody’s denying that. But pretending this Frankenstein setup is “fairness” or “progress” is a joke. We didn’t fix the problem, we just swung the pendulum so hard it broke off the wall.
At some point, there has to be structure. Otherwise the sport becomes nothing but whoever has the deepest pockets that year. And that’s not good for anyone — including the players.
Yes, there’s a $20M cap on school-funded comp and it rises ~4% a year. But pair that with totally uncapped booster NIL and you’ve basically created two competing payroll systems with no oversight, no competitive balance, and no long-term sustainability model.
Instead of a thoughtful reform, we got:
• A bidding war disguised as “amateurism”
• No guardrails
• No alignment between school cap + NIL money (for now)
• A system where money matters more than development, culture, or coaching
Players should absolutely benefit — nobody’s denying that. But pretending this Frankenstein setup is “fairness” or “progress” is a joke. We didn’t fix the problem, we just swung the pendulum so hard it broke off the wall.
At some point, there has to be structure. Otherwise the sport becomes nothing but whoever has the deepest pockets that year. And that’s not good for anyone — including the players.
Posted on 10/31/25 at 7:39 am to ScotlandAve
In all arguments since this clustermuck started ignore the value and benefits player receives by attending and participating in athletics. Tuition, books, food, medical, board are obvious ... but association, education, are values ignored because they are financially rewarded after participation but amount in some cases to millions of dollars. That deferred income is a result of talent, association, exposure, maturity and market values all developed during the college experience. The current average wage for a college graduate is $80k annually. Min pay for the NBA...$1,272,000 ... NFL $850,000 ... NHL $775,000 ... seems to me that they all do better than a accounting major. I don't feel one bit sorry for the successful athlete...they are currently over compensated.
Posted on 10/31/25 at 7:47 am to ScotlandAve
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College coaches — especially in the SEC — are getting paid more than NFL coaches. That’s not sustainable when you now have to pay the roster too.
Well when you only have to pay the roster $20 million instead of $300+ million, it’s easier to pay the HC more. Also colleges have multiple people funding the program as compared to one for many NFL franchises.
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Tell me how that math works long-term.
Rich people have a lot of money? Idk
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This model is collapsing.
What proof is there that the model is currently collapsing?
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LSU needs to get ahead of it instead of clinging to “but that’s how it’s always been.”
How do you suppose they do that?
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