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re: LSU Baseball not selected to play in the tournament
Posted on 5/30/11 at 12:28 pm to mlminbtr
Posted on 5/30/11 at 12:28 pm to mlminbtr
If much worse at large teams are making it in over LSU it is def the NCAA committee's fault for screwing LSU.
It doesn't matter if LSU had a bad year by their standards. If they are a one of the best at large teams they should get in.
It doesn't matter if LSU had a bad year by their standards. If they are a one of the best at large teams they should get in.
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Posted on 5/30/11 at 12:29 pm to RBWilliams8
[quote]How does Alcorn State and UALR and New Mexico make it in with losing freaking records!!!?? Also Princeton who we beat in the best out of 3 match up makes it in the Texas Reg with a damn23-22 record!! makes me sick[/quote
Please tell me you're joking]
Please tell me you're joking]
Posted on 5/30/11 at 12:32 pm to msutiger
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Smoke got fired after not making the tourney
talk at the time, and included this board as well in '06, was Bertman "suggested" to the committee not to take LSU which would make his suggestion to Laval easier.
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yet PM gets a free pass
Hopefully his free pass expired at about 11:47 this morning.
Posted on 5/30/11 at 12:33 pm to harry coleman beast
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Please tell me you're joking]
It was someone elses post in another thread. I was being a smartass yes.
Posted on 5/30/11 at 12:35 pm to mlminbtr
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This is not on the NCAA or the selection committee. If you can't see that there are issues with the team, then you haven't been going to the games.
Actually it IS on the NCAA. You had to dig to find reasons that sounded viable. Bottom line, the criteria applied to LSU was not applied to other "lesser" teams. Of the top 40 offical NCAA rpi, only three times got left out: LSU at 24, and E. Tenn. and Elon (both in the upper thirties). LSU plays in the toughest conference in baseball. The NCAA gives five, count them, FIVE regionals to ACC teams. Yes, LSU lost three games, just as CPM said, that cost them the tournament, a higher ranking in the west, and inevitably, the NCAA. Teams that don't make their own conference are often in the NCAA. It has happened many times. Don't tell me that LSU does not rank in the top 64 and then give some BS reason like not enough road games that were tough. SEC games are tough road games. They gave as one reason the low ranking of the SEC teams with whom LSU won series. One of those teams, Miss State, made the cut. Somehow that doesn't wash. And they gave LSU no credit for beating their top 8 seed CSF, just b/c the game was not played in Fullerton. ???? Oh well, how long 'til February?
Posted on 5/30/11 at 12:37 pm to thunderbird1100
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No they didn't, they are holding us to a completely different standard over everyone else.
no they're not .. list the schools that won basically half of their conference games against the worst two teams in their league and whose only non-conference road trip before league play started was at nicholls state that are in the field as an at-large ...
This post was edited on 5/30/11 at 12:41 pm
Posted on 5/30/11 at 12:39 pm to RBWilliams8
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How does Alcorn State and UALR and New Mexico make it in with losing freaking records!!!
conference tournament champions .. the same way we got in last year ..
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Also Princeton who we beat in the best out of 3 match up makes it in the Texas Reg with a damn23-22 record!! makes me sick
ivy league champions .. and didn't we lose to that horrible team ?
This post was edited on 5/30/11 at 12:43 pm
Posted on 5/30/11 at 12:41 pm to marmur4647
Just saw the announcement of the field. Manhattan, Belmont. I live in Nashville. LSU would destroy Belmont 3 out of 3 games if played. We sweep Cal. St. Fullerton, and beat Miss St 2 of 3 in the last series of the year, and we're left out.
It's our own fault for how the season turned out, but it's not LSU or CPM's fault that we didn't make it. It's the NCAA's fault. Something is wrong with the logic involved to seed teams.
It's our own fault for how the season turned out, but it's not LSU or CPM's fault that we didn't make it. It's the NCAA's fault. Something is wrong with the logic involved to seed teams.
Posted on 5/30/11 at 12:43 pm to TigahRag
The issue is not that this team underachieved this year, or didn't deserve to get into the tournament. The issue is the teams that got in the tournament over LSU. Given who made the tournament, LSU should be in. There are at least 3 or 4 at large teams who LSU is better than, and that can clearly be seen by the resumes.
This post was edited on 5/30/11 at 12:45 pm
Posted on 5/30/11 at 12:46 pm to Tigerik
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but it's not LSU or CPM's fault that we didn't make it. It's the NCAA's fault.
CPM doesnt hire assistant coaches? They need to be gone ASAP. The division they caused in the clubhouse not to mention subpar "coaching" efforts are more than enough to issue a pink slip.
Posted on 5/30/11 at 12:47 pm to RBWilliams8
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RBWilliams8
i had faith you were smarter than that. Posted on 5/30/11 at 12:53 pm to bigbenlsu
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Given who made the tournament, LSU should be in. There are at least 3 or 4 at large teams who LSU is better than, and that can clearly be seen by the resumes.
you have to look at the at-large invites .. not the automatic conference champs .. LSU has a case somewhat vs. mississippi state getting in .. but if the roles were reversed, LSU fans would be crying bloody murder if we were denied entry into the tourney based on the head-to-head results of one three-game series when our conference body of work was better ... the committee did a good job and there are more arguments for LSU not getting in than getting in ... in the end, this will be for the better in the not too distant future of the program ...
major major message/wake-up call sent out ... no regional two years in a row at alex box ... LSU makes serious $$$ off of regionals and super regionals and for years almost budgeted to at least have a regional at home ..
This post was edited on 5/30/11 at 12:55 pm
Posted on 5/30/11 at 12:54 pm to Mudminnow
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CPM doesnt hire assistant coaches? They need to be gone ASAP. The division they caused in the clubhouse not to mention subpar "coaching" efforts are more than enough to issue a pink slip.
Sanchez should have been fired during game 2 w/ MSU. Those baserunning decisions were pitiful for little league, much less SEC !
Posted on 5/30/11 at 12:56 pm to TigahRag
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major major message/wake-up call sent out ... no regional two years in a row at alex box ... LSU makes serious $$$ off of regionals and super regionals and for years almost budgeted to at least have a regional at home ..
Got to admit this is true. For years it was pretty much budgeted LSU would host a regional. I'm not sure it's a staggering amount of money but it did help fund a few pet projects for the Athletic Dept.
Posted on 5/30/11 at 1:00 pm to jonanthans
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I do not agree with some of the teams that made it in, however I don't believe anyone can honestly say that we deserved to be included regardless. We finished in the bottom of the SEC standings and our conference wins came against the other bottom feeders. Our RPI was solid but we just didn't play the quality of ball that people have gotten used to seeing out of LSU. Face it, we just were not a good team this season. Sad to say, but I almost prefer to be left out and have people question it, than be included and prove the others right.
Agreed!
Posted on 5/30/11 at 1:04 pm to Colonel Flagg
I meant to say 2009, not last year.
Apparently, the big 12 was the big winner, and we wonder why that happens.
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Apparently, the big 12 was the big winner, and we wonder why that happens.
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This post was edited on 5/30/11 at 1:10 pm
Posted on 5/30/11 at 1:10 pm to Cajun Revolution
that is what finally did curley hallman in .. when LSU started feeling the decline in football at the cash register .. two years in a row without a regional at home and two years in a row with a poor conference season that led to poor actual attendance at home games will really show up at the cash register now ... one can only hope that maineri understands he went from winning a national championship to putting himself on the hot seat in two quick seasons ..
Posted on 5/30/11 at 1:15 pm to TigahRag
Exactly. Cash is King. Do I think Maneiri deserves the hot seat? No but I think LSU admins are determined to have LSU back hosting. Its taking money from their pocket. I'm sure they're not feeling the loss as bad with this Bayou Country Superfest rent but still it's a concern I'm sure.
That's a big arse stadium to have sit empty.
That's a big arse stadium to have sit empty.
Posted on 5/30/11 at 1:19 pm to Cajun Revolution
the new box wasn't cheap ... as of right now, in his five seasons, maineri has been to omaha twice, completely missed the tourney twice and lost in the regionals ... he is almost smoke-esque sans the national championship ..
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