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LSU-Arkansas and "The Golden Boot"--A Phony, Manufactured Rivalry

Posted on 11/13/15 at 4:06 pm
Posted by timlan2057
In the Shadow of Tiger Stadium
Member since Sep 2005
16788 posts
Posted on 11/13/15 at 4:06 pm
Arkansas is not our "rival."

Some PR firm came up with the "Golden Boot" in 1996 in an attempt to manufacture a rivalry where there was none.

Rivalries and trophies are born out of small things that become tradition.

Michigan and Minnesota's "Little Brown Jug," for instance--in 1903, Fielding Yost brought his "point-a-minute" Wolverine offense to Minneapolis. (I wish Les Miles would emulate Yost instead of Schembechler.) He was suspicious of Minnesota perhaps doctoring Michigan's water and sent a trainer out to buy a water jug for 30 cents. After losing the game, Michigan left the jug behind in the visitors' locker room.

A Scandinavian janitor told the Minnesota coach: "Yost left his yug." A Minnesota student painted the jug in Gopher colors with the game score, and a tradition was born--spontaneously, not manufactured.

LSU tradition is Ruffin Pleasant going to buy Mardi Gras ribbon before catching the train to play Tulane--he wanted a purple, green, and gold swatch on his jersey. Alas, the store was out of green ribbon and he could only get ... purple and gold.

What kind of uniforms would we be wearing if the fabric shop had been out of purple ribbon instead of green over 100 years ago?

That's tradition. It's spontaneous and grows from small, seemingly inconsequential beginnings--not some phony manufactured big-arse trophy--"Hey! We'll increase the TV ratings because now we have a rivalry!"

Don't misunderstand me. I hate these Arky fans probably second to gump fans--but not because I think they are our "big" rival because some people thought it would be a good idea.

Rivalries and the trophies and traditions that go with them are born--they are not made in some public relations office.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28259 posts
Posted on 11/13/15 at 4:10 pm to
Has there been any LSU fans who thought otherwise? I literally know of ZERO LSU fans who see Arkansas as a "rival"
Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
12137 posts
Posted on 11/13/15 at 4:10 pm to
Then you have Ole Miss, who IS a natural rival, but is also being forced on us with the "Magnolia Bowl"
Posted by 1badboy
In space
Member since Jul 2014
8103 posts
Posted on 11/13/15 at 4:12 pm to
I totally agree! Real rival Old Piss!!!!!
Posted by sugatowng
Look at my bling Bitches
Member since Nov 2006
25330 posts
Posted on 11/13/15 at 4:13 pm to
4-4 since 2007. We are also on our 4th coach during that time frame...Only John L didn't get a win and it went to the final play of the game to decide.

Rivalry or not, If I was a fan of LSU I would be questioning our leaders
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66404 posts
Posted on 11/13/15 at 4:13 pm to
Bring bag the Tiger tag! frick Tulane every year
Posted by Barbellthor
Columbia
Member since Aug 2015
8634 posts
Posted on 11/13/15 at 4:14 pm to
Yes. Yes. A million times yes. Ar-Kansas is irrelevant to us. They are beneath us. They look up to us like a puppy to a big dog.

We need, after we beat them, to leave that trophy on the field and prepare for next week.
Posted by beauchristopher
new orleans
Member since Jan 2008
65855 posts
Posted on 11/13/15 at 4:16 pm to
quote:

4-4 since 2007


why is 2007 the stopping point? because it's convenient?

why not just Miles at LSU vs Arkansas dating back to 2005 is 6-4... about to be 7-4
Posted by sugatowng
Look at my bling Bitches
Member since Nov 2006
25330 posts
Posted on 11/13/15 at 4:20 pm to
quote:

why is 2007 the stopping point? because it's convenient?


no...just more relevant.

Nutt going out the door in 2007
Petrino in 2008-2011
John L 2012
Bert 2013-present

Also...that time frame was pointed out in another thread by an LSU fan. Says a lot actually
Posted by LSUSoulja08
Member since Oct 2007
16969 posts
Posted on 11/13/15 at 4:22 pm to
record regardless, Arkansas is an afterthought of the SEC and we forget we even play you every year until November rolls around. Just the way it is man.

I respect the hell out of the program though. I never underestimate you guys. You've given us fits every year. Play us tough no matter what your season is looking like.
This post was edited on 11/13/15 at 4:23 pm
Posted by LeeHOswald
Dallas
Member since Oct 2014
144 posts
Posted on 11/13/15 at 4:22 pm to
perhaps we need to win more than 50% before we totally ignore them. Yes they are about as exciting as Vandy, but we need to start beating their brains in and winning more of these games.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33377 posts
Posted on 11/13/15 at 4:23 pm to
quote:

timlan2057


Having said all that you said, I do already miss the Friday-after-Thanksgiving Arkansas game (although I don't miss playing half the time in that disgusting War Memorial Stadium).
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 11/13/15 at 4:24 pm to
yet embraced by Arkansas players and fans.

they hate LSU almost as much as they hate Tejas
Posted by GO_LSU
Bywater
Member since Aug 2005
745 posts
Posted on 11/13/15 at 4:25 pm to
The whole "We're not really rivals" thing is getting really old. Every SEC game is a rivalry that gives a team at least a year of bragging rights.

Rival- a person or thing that tries to defeat or be more successful than another

We are rivals by the definition of the word.
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16035 posts
Posted on 11/13/15 at 4:27 pm to
They are OUR MOST NATURAL RIVAL in the SEC. They are a border state along the Mississippi river. Texas A&M has Texas. Ole Miss has Mississippi. Auburn and Bama have each other.

That leaves LSU VS ARKANSAS.

for anyone who says they are beneath us, why have they been kicking our arse every other year?

YOU PEOPLE WHO SAY THEY AREN'T OUR RIVAL ARE DOPES!
Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
12137 posts
Posted on 11/13/15 at 4:29 pm to
quote:

That leaves LSU VS ARKANSAS.


Or Missouri v. Arkansas.
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16035 posts
Posted on 11/13/15 at 4:38 pm to
quote:

Or Missouri v. Arkansas.


well could have been but in the wrong division and
we had them first. Maybe they can be rivals with Texas A&M if they want
(do they play each other every year as the permanent cross division game opponent?)

plus they don't have a golden boot to play for
This post was edited on 11/13/15 at 4:42 pm
Posted by sugatowng
Look at my bling Bitches
Member since Nov 2006
25330 posts
Posted on 11/13/15 at 4:40 pm to
as of last year...Another "created" rivalry that will hardly ever decide a division.

Tomorrow's game could ultimately decide the SEC West Champ
Posted by pioneerbasketball
Team Bunchie
Member since Oct 2005
132251 posts
Posted on 11/13/15 at 4:42 pm to
quote:

yet embraced by Arkansas players and fans. 

they hate LSU almost as much as they hate Tejas

No we dont. Its just another hard sec game for us.
Posted by gohogs141
Fayetteville
Member since Jun 2011
7512 posts
Posted on 11/13/15 at 4:45 pm to
quote:

(do they play each other every year as the permanent cross division game opponent?)

plus they don't have a golden boot to play for


Yes.

We have something worse:

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