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re: LSU and its commitment to basketball?
Posted on 1/16/14 at 10:25 am to josh336
Posted on 1/16/14 at 10:25 am to josh336
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With that said, johnny jones has done a remarkable job his first year and a half.
Remarkable? You and I must have different definitions of "remarkable." I think we overachieved a bit last year, but that was in large part due to the league's overall futility. He's proved already that he is a GREAT recruiter, but our guys look lost on the floor this year with much more talent and experience.
The offense has no flow and fails to utilize our strength (post play) for long periods of time. Defensively we have very little cohesiveness. Our guys can't make FTs, although that's more on the players than a lack of attention to FT shooting. I have to imagine a decent portion of practice is dedicated to that, but you wouldn't know from the results. Jones sits guys too long for crucial moments and uses the Phil Jackson "I'm not calling a timeout; I'm letting them figure it out" mentality it seems when we're losing momentum.
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Posted on 1/16/14 at 10:28 am to tduecen
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LSU needs a smart hire more than a money hire
Great point. Throwing money at the problem won't necessarily solve anything.
Posted on 1/16/14 at 10:32 am to L S Usetheforce
So you think that JJ isn't good enough as the record o win and losses isn't up to your personal expectations. He is in his second year on the damned job and got here with a cupboard empty of good players after Brady. Why would you think that an overnight success to be be a likelihood under those circumstances?
Posted on 1/16/14 at 10:47 am to CITWTT
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. He is in his second year on the damned job and got here with a cupboard empty of good players after Brady.
Posted on 1/16/14 at 10:58 am to bfniii
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lsu fans have proven that when there is a good product on the floor, they will show up.
This is a lie. LSU fans did not show up in 2009 when we won the SEC and attendance was ok during the 2006 Final Four year.
This post was edited on 1/16/14 at 10:58 am
Posted on 1/16/14 at 11:27 am to oauron
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It all starts with support from the fan base
I wasn't there, but I've been told that seats were hard to come by during the Brown era. Team was winning, fans showed up.
Posted on 1/16/14 at 1:17 pm to lsu711
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How can we afford more when we don't fill up the arena and our ticket prices are so low? It all starts with support from the fan base
Good coaching + good players + wins = a full house!!! I was in school late 70's early 80's and the place was packed every game!!!
Posted on 1/16/14 at 1:29 pm to Tigerfan420
LSU needs to make the same commitment to basketball that Florida does. Until that happens LSU BB won't be relevant. LSU has a long way to go to even have the same type of commitment Iowa State has.
LSU made the NCAA tournament for ten years in a row from the mid 80s to mid 90s but the commitment lagged behind. There's enough talent in LA, MS, TX, and the Delta and Gulf Coast to win it all.
But let's face it. Now if you're a top ten recruit from Louisiana and you have places like Duke, Kansas, Kentucky, UNC, Florida, Indiana, and Michigan State after you are you going to go to LSU over those schools?
LSU made the NCAA tournament for ten years in a row from the mid 80s to mid 90s but the commitment lagged behind. There's enough talent in LA, MS, TX, and the Delta and Gulf Coast to win it all.
But let's face it. Now if you're a top ten recruit from Louisiana and you have places like Duke, Kansas, Kentucky, UNC, Florida, Indiana, and Michigan State after you are you going to go to LSU over those schools?
Posted on 1/16/14 at 1:31 pm to AlexLSU
Realistically, it is extremely difficult for a university to be consistently successful in the big three sports.
There are only a handful of schools that can do it, and to be honest, LSU as a university is no where near those schools.
There are only a handful of schools that can do it, and to be honest, LSU as a university is no where near those schools.
Posted on 1/16/14 at 1:58 pm to UpToPar
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There are only a handful of schools that can do it, and to be honest, LSU as a university is no where near those schools.
bullshite!!! We have the fan base and money to make it happen!!!
Posted on 1/16/14 at 2:48 pm to lsu711
quote:Support will not come until the wins materialize.
How can we afford more when we don't fill up the arena and our ticket prices are so low? It all starts with support from the fan base.
Occams Razor here. The simplest explanation is usually the correct one. Few wins = few people in the seats. Keep getting blown out while displaying inept coaching/game management and the place will be like a tomb. LSU fans know good coaching when they see it and they aint seein it.
Expect the PMAC to become more and more like a Tulane football game in the Dome until the wins come, as LSU fans have had about enough of bad basketball and have little patience left.
Doesn't take long to turn a college basketball program around if the coaching and athletes are in place.
Posted on 1/16/14 at 2:49 pm to BRAVEHEART
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LSU fans know good coaching when they see it and they aint seein it.
Posted on 1/16/14 at 2:50 pm to lsu2006
I haven't seen in two year Johnny have an affinity to put a game away.........Just sayin.
Posted on 1/16/14 at 2:56 pm to L S Usetheforce
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I haven't seen in two year Johnny have an affinity to put a game away
It's Johnny's fault our only decent shooter is unbelievably streaky and our center can't pass out of a double team to save his life and our upperclassmen play with zero intensity and our upperclassmen refuse to work on free throws?
He's recruiting his arse off and doing the best he can with the guys we currently have. It's hard to be all that succesful when you not only have zero outside shooting, but your low-post man decided to basically give up. Teams have and will continue to zone us to death.
This post was edited on 1/16/14 at 2:57 pm
Posted on 1/16/14 at 3:53 pm to Tigerfan420
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bullshite!!! We have the fan base and money to make it happen!!!
List the schools that are consistently successful in the big three sports?
Florida, Texas, maybe USC come to mind. All of those schools have infinitely more resources than LSU has.
Posted on 1/16/14 at 3:58 pm to Circle K Beggar
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Collis Temple needs to take his hands off the wheel
Ding ding ding
Posted on 1/16/14 at 4:07 pm to CarterWilson717
I predict this team will go on a bad arse run in the near future....
we have the right man in charge , chill out and enjoy the ride....
when it takes off lsu will be good for a long time...
we have the right man in charge , chill out and enjoy the ride....
when it takes off lsu will be good for a long time...
Posted on 1/16/14 at 4:12 pm to Circle K Beggar
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Collis Temple needs to take his hands off the wheel
In what way is he negatively affecting the program?
Posted on 1/16/14 at 4:25 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
quote:Billy Donovan was 5-11 and 6-10 in conference games his first two seasons at Florida. Jones was 9-9 his first season. Do you think Billy Donovan was this huge big time coach when Florida hired him and do you think they paid him an over the top salary right from the first? If you don't know the past, how can you possibly make an intelligent statement in the present?
LSU needs to make the same commitment to basketball that Florida does.
Posted on 1/16/14 at 4:42 pm to UpToPar
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Realistically, it is extremely difficult for a university to be consistently successful in the big three sports.
There are only a handful of schools that can do it, and to be honest, LSU as a university is no where near those schools.
Stanford, with its academic standards wins the sears cup or what ever it's called (director's cup)just about every year. The big 3 sports aren't lights out, but they are solid. It's all the other sports that usually help them win the award, but Stanford Football, Basketball and Baseball aren't too bad year to year.
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