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re: Louisiana St. vs LSU

Posted on 6/18/21 at 9:14 pm to
Posted by TexTgrTed
Parker County, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
6290 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 9:14 pm to
I never heard the term “Fighting Bengal Tigers”.

I have heard Fighting Tigers & Bayou Bengals.
Posted by tigger1
Member since Mar 2005
3751 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 9:17 pm to
I am guessing you can not read:

It struck me that purple and gold looked Tigerish enough and I suggested that we choose “Louisiana Tigers,” all in conference with the boys. The Louisiana Tigers had represented the state in Civil War and had been known for their hard fighting.

He told you it came from the Civil War, just like the 1930's article in the Baton Rouge paper about Dr. Coates.


all in conference with the boys, with the boys is the student body voice vote on the subject of the nickname.

But the article leaves out the other players in the nickname.
This post was edited on 6/18/21 at 9:22 pm
Posted by TexTgrTed
Parker County, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
6290 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 9:30 pm to
I’m with you.

Hearing Verne say “Touchdown, Louisiana State” was OK with me.
Posted by js1591
Member since Jan 2020
2852 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 9:42 pm to
No you don’t.
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
7191 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 9:45 pm to
quote:

I am guessing you can not read:

It struck me that purple and gold looked Tigerish enough and I suggested that we choose “Louisiana Tigers,” all in conference with the boys. The Louisiana Tigers had represented the state in Civil War and had been known for their hard fighting.

He told you it came from the Civil War, just like the 1930's article in the Baton Rouge paper about Dr. Coates.


The part you bolded is merely an aside that was a confirming coincidence. Read the whole damn quote:
quote:

It was the custom at that time, for some occult reason, to call football teams by the names of vicious animals; the Yale Bulldogs and the Princeton Tigers, for example. This is still the vogue. It struck me that purple and gold looked Tigerish enough and I suggested that we choose "Louisiana Tigers," all in conference with the boys. The Louisiana Tigers had represented the state in Civil War and had been known for their hard fighting.
The man who came up with the idea said that it "was the custom at that time . . . to call football teams by the names of vicious animals."

"It struck me that purple and gold looked Tigerish enough and I suggested that we choose "Louisiana Tigers," all in conference with the boys."

Criteria for mascot: vicious animal

The LSU uniforms looked: "Tigerish"; therefore, the coach and players chose "Tigers."

There was also the confirming coincidence that "The Louisiana Tigers had represented the state in Civil War and had been known for their hard fighting," but that was not part of the criteria. They merely had the same monicker.

This ain't rocket science. It's like you are intentionally refusing to accept the clear facts, that are right in front of your face, by the man who suggested the name back in 1893.

Come on, man.

First, you argue "Boyd," but he was gone.

Then you argue "bad reporting," but it's not research or interpretation.

Then you argue "source," but it's a quote from THE MAN himself.

Now you are arguing context.

Holy frick!
This post was edited on 6/18/21 at 9:47 pm
Posted by tigger1
Member since Mar 2005
3751 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 9:51 pm to
Salviati, it does appear you can not read the article you posted:

Dr. Coates said and I quote him from your article:

The Louisiana Tigers had represented the state in Civil War and had been known for their hard fighting.

And I quote again about the student body:

we choose “Louisiana Tigers,” all in conference with the boys.


That is not I, that is we choose...just like I told you near 2 pages ago.

First he tells you the student body, alumni, and teachers picked the "Louisiana Tigers", then he tells you who the Louisiana Tigers where hard fighters from Louisiana in the Civil War.
This post was edited on 6/18/21 at 10:07 pm
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
7191 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 10:13 pm to
You have not offered one shred of evidence. Not one.

You argued Boyd.

You argued "bad reporting" about the same letter that you now quote.

You argued "source" about the same man you now quote.

When you have nothing left to offer or argue, you try to quote the source that I provided from go, and you attempt to argue that it's not what Coates says specifically in his letter about why he suggested Tigers, it's the coincidental context that Louisiana also had units called Tigers in the Civil War.

There are none so blind as those who will not see. You refuse to see.

I put the clear facts in front of you, but you are blinded by your agenda.
Posted by tigger1
Member since Mar 2005
3751 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 10:30 pm to
Salviati you clearly misread the article.

You are a good poster here and a good Tiger Fan.

I do not want to prolong this issue. I want you to have fun and enjoy life.

This is not going anywhere.
Posted by Damathe
Member since Apr 2020
7092 posts
Posted on 6/19/21 at 2:06 am to
quote:

Bengals is nowhere to be found.

You people.


I heard "Bengal Tigers" many times growing up.

Who said "Bengals"?

You person.
Posted by The Third
Temple, Texas
Member since Jan 2010
145 posts
Posted on 6/19/21 at 2:22 am to
Neither TCU or USC (West) are state schools. Both are private.
Posted by BayouBlogger
Left Coast
Member since Aug 2015
1025 posts
Posted on 6/19/21 at 5:27 am to
quote:

I have never heard anyone refer to Arizona State as ASU.


How often do you talk to Arizona natives or ASU grads?
Posted by BayouBlogger
Left Coast
Member since Aug 2015
1025 posts
Posted on 6/19/21 at 5:40 am to
quote:



LINKLINK


Headlines don’t work if they’re too long
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
56698 posts
Posted on 6/19/21 at 5:41 am to
quote:

Are we the only state school that abbreviates our name? Guess I never thought about it



When I was at LSU there were only two schools in the country that "officially" went by their acronym...LSU and UCLA
Posted by BayouBlogger
Left Coast
Member since Aug 2015
1025 posts
Posted on 6/19/21 at 5:44 am to
quote:

When I was at LSU there were only two schools in the country that "officially" went by their acronym...LSU and UCLA


I wonder when UCLA’s neighbors started insisting on USC in preference to Southern Cal.
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
56698 posts
Posted on 6/19/21 at 6:39 am to
If they do abbreviate it don't most Southern Cal grads/students refer to it as SC and not USC?
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
43148 posts
Posted on 6/19/21 at 7:17 am to
quote:

And I went to LSU in the 80's


So did I Slippy. And as a testament to my wonderous powers of procrastination, I ended up on the top floor of the west stadium dorms. Who knows, we may have run into each other in the mass of humanity that traversed the quad.

quote:

I can promise you that we were referred to in the media as LSU. The endzones have always said LSU.



Yep. I can verify
Posted by mikethetigerdc
DC
Member since Sep 2018
205 posts
Posted on 6/19/21 at 7:41 am to
USC (Southern Cal), OU, UGA, UVA, UT, UCLA are some examples that are commonly used.
Posted by FlyFishinTiger
Fayetteville,AR
Member since Mar 2021
1063 posts
Posted on 6/19/21 at 12:17 pm to
Posted by Damathe
Member since Apr 2020
7092 posts
Posted on 6/19/21 at 12:30 pm to
quote:

When I was at LSU there were only two schools in the country that "officially" went by their acronym...LSU and UCLA


Uh, you hear "Southern Methodist" once in a blue moon for SMU but I cannot think of one time I've heard---even from a couple of grads---"Texas Christian" for TCU, officially or not.
This post was edited on 6/19/21 at 12:34 pm
Posted by PurpleExile
Member since Dec 2020
598 posts
Posted on 6/20/21 at 5:13 am to
Beginning in 1972 LSU started including a notice in its media guide that stated that it wanted to be called "LSU," even on first mention.

The Associated Press wire service style in those days was to refer to a school's full name the first time it was mentioned (in most cases-UCLA being one exception), and then it was okay to use the abbreviation after. LSU requested to be an exception to that rule, and AP largely complied.

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