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re: Looks like Troy will have an 11 win season
Posted on 12/21/17 at 5:58 am to Rickdaddy4188
Posted on 12/21/17 at 5:58 am to Rickdaddy4188
quote:0-7, and 0% win probability is not marginal, Saban brought in Kiffin in 2014 and said what we do will not work against Tempo/Spread, make us relevant Offensively, and LSU was one of ALA's only ranked wins in a poor SEC and they took a knee against the "Team that ruined the SEC by losing to Troy"
the talent gap between lsu and bama was marginal.
quote:MSST lost the next 2 weeks 31-3 to UGA, and 49-10 to AUB, they led ALA and choked in the final Qtr - Aranda did not have the D ready for that Off, and LSU's Off was below 80th at the time
the talent gap between msu and lsu is big.
Posted on 12/21/17 at 6:14 am to Rickdaddy4188
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you know good and well final rankings are an infinitely better way of judging how good a team is over where they started. quote:
So the 2011 season wasn't near as tough as we 1st thought... Look at where teams finished compare to when we played them....
Posted on 12/21/17 at 6:39 am to Madking
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Another false narrative, we’ve been ranked in the teens 4 of the past 5 seasons. We haven’t been a perennial top 5 team since 07 and have been ranked in the top 10 once since 2012. Yes expectations have dropped but it happened under Miles a long time before Orgeron was HC at LSU.
Miles best Ranking year was 2011. He was fired for slipping after that year further and further behind in the SECW, particularly with ALA, for not developing a Passing Game & failure to develop QBs and a modern Offense. Revenues and attendance has fallen while Alleva has raised ticket prices. Miles had Top Recruiting Classes, 2nd in the SEC and under-performed much less talented teams because they had Better/Coaching/Offensive Schemes/QB utilization. When you under-perform your recruiting rank by 15-20 places in the Top 25 you get fired. The athletic administration is supposed to notice what works best and hire the best Coach available. In this case it was supposed to be an Offensive Coach - Tom Herman was the A+ "must hire" and we settled for a D-line good ole boy who is stuck in the 3-Loss or 4-Loss Miles Zone. IOTW we took a step back and it showed up in recruiting. Herman hit it out of the Park. Kiffin who made over ALA & FAU winning with 4 totally different QBs was an A+ hire who boosted all aspects of FAU from enrollment, donors, game attendance, recruiting, and national media coverage.
From the 2017 chart you see that by Week 5 we were Unranked and the season was over. The remaining SOS after Troy was in the 60's. A 3 loss team is not going to compete for any championships or move up or down in the polls.
"Yes expectations have dropped but it happened under Miles a long time before Orgeron was HC at LSU." Sad. The Coaching Hire was Joe Alleva's only major responsibility and he has yet to make a single significant one in 20 yrs.
Troy's Off is been far more productive and ranked in the Top 30 more times than LSU in the past 10 yrs. From a high of 16 in 2009 they are around 40 and LSU around 80. They controlled that game from start to finish.
Posted on 12/21/17 at 7:04 am to Rickdaddy4188
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#1 bama
#10 ole miss
Arkansas
it goes down in the history books as losses to #4 and #22 and that is a FACT!
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5 times we into the bama game top 5
print the shirts...and then you said this...
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final rankings are an infinitely better way of judging how good a team is over where they started
Miles teams final rankings...We need to compare to recruiting rankings and drafted players to see just how much CLM teams under performed.
2005-6
2006-3
2007-1
2008-NR
2009-17
2010-8
2011-2
2012-13
2013-14
2014-NR
2015-16
Posted on 12/21/17 at 8:18 am to Madking
Oh geez, expectations never dropped when Miles was here, but results did. That’s why he’s no longer here. A 9-3 regular season never met expectations before and it shouldn’t meet expectations now.
It was because of the elite results, mostly, that we had from 05-2012 that made 9-3, 10-3 not acceptable and a L to a SBC team was NEVER acceptable.
Miles has been gone for over 20 LSU games, a whole regular yr., and almost 2 recruiting periods. Nothing, on the whole, has changed in regard to our results in that period.
I guess there is always next yr. which is pretty much what LSU fans have heard going on 6-7 yrs. and why a coaching change was made almost 2 yrs ago.
It was because of the elite results, mostly, that we had from 05-2012 that made 9-3, 10-3 not acceptable and a L to a SBC team was NEVER acceptable.
Miles has been gone for over 20 LSU games, a whole regular yr., and almost 2 recruiting periods. Nothing, on the whole, has changed in regard to our results in that period.
I guess there is always next yr. which is pretty much what LSU fans have heard going on 6-7 yrs. and why a coaching change was made almost 2 yrs ago.
Posted on 12/21/17 at 8:37 am to Lonnie4LSU
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Miles has been gone for over 20 LSU games, a whole regular yr., and almost 2 recruiting periods
this simply isn't true and you know it
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a coaching change was made almost 2 yrs ago.
once again not close to being true...a little over a year is much more accurate
Posted on 12/21/17 at 8:56 am to Topwater Trout
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a coaching change was made almost 2 yrs ago.
once again not close to being true...a little over a year is much more accurate
This is dumb, even for you. Miles was fired 4 games into last season. That means we've had a new coach for over a season and a half (8/12 of last season, and 12/13 of this season). That is much closer to two seasons than one. Is this the nitpicking you dummies have resorted to to keep this thread going?
Posted on 12/21/17 at 9:18 am to LNCHBOX
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This is dumb, even for you.
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2 yrs ago
24 mos in a year...he was fired 14 mos ago...do the math
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we've had a new coach for over a season and a half (8/12 of last season, and 12/13 of this season). That is much closer to two seasons than one.
now you are referencing seasons...there is a difference. Truth be told he still hasn't been coach for ONE entire recruiting season. I consider signing day to signing day one recruiting season wouldn't you?
Posted on 12/21/17 at 9:20 am to Topwater Trout
Holy frick dude, just drop it
It's embarrassing for you.
ETA: But if you want to keep the thread going, by all means. I'm just saying look at the stupidity you're arguing, and ask yourself if it's really worth it.
ETA: But if you want to keep the thread going, by all means. I'm just saying look at the stupidity you're arguing, and ask yourself if it's really worth it.
This post was edited on 12/21/17 at 9:22 am
Posted on 12/21/17 at 9:34 am to Topwater Trout
Let me settle it for you to:
According to the CheeriOs LSU has gone
6-2 (2016)
9-3 (2017)
Math says that is 20 games. 20 games is 1/6th shy of 2 seasons. So you are wrong.
According to the CheeriOs LSU has gone
6-2 (2016)
9-3 (2017)
Math says that is 20 games. 20 games is 1/6th shy of 2 seasons. So you are wrong.
Posted on 12/21/17 at 9:38 am to Topwater Trout
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Miss st had the better o and dlines at the time that game was played and that’s not debatable
then post all the LSU and Miss St 2 deep for the linemen , with their recruiting rankings included. if what you say is true, then this shouldn't be very difficult to prove.
Posted on 12/21/17 at 9:38 am to LNCHBOX
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I'm just saying look at the stupidity you're arguing, and ask yourself if it's really worth it.
I'm bored trying to get through til tomorrow so yes it is
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just drop it It's embarrassing for you.
explaining math isn't embarassing
Posted on 12/21/17 at 9:41 am to Dave England
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then post all the LSU and Miss St 2 deep for the linemen , with their recruiting rankings included. if what you say is true, then this shouldn't be very difficult to prove.
you do it...anyone that knows football knows we were outmatched on both lines that game
Posted on 12/21/17 at 9:41 am to Quid Pro Quo
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0-7, and 0% win probability is not marginal
as of january 2012 , there was no 7 game win streak.
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MSST lost the next 2 weeks 31-3 to UGA, and 49-10 to AUB, they led ALA and choked in the final Qtr - Aranda did not have the D ready for that Off, and LSU's Off was below 80th at the time
aranda cant help the fact that the defense was constantly on the field because the offense cannot do anything. the offense was shutout for 3 quarters.
it was 17-7 at the half. it was still a game, if the offense could have managed to do anything.
Posted on 12/21/17 at 9:44 am to Tiger1988
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According to the CheeriOs LSU has gone
and according to the haters he didn't become head coach until the Louisville game...that is 13 games or 1 full season
Posted on 12/21/17 at 9:48 am to Topwater Trout
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you do it...anyone that knows football knows we were outmatched on both lines that game
no. you are the one who made the outlandish claim, now back it up.
if you are so "bored", should be a nice time waster for you.
not that it has any relevance on the OP, but whatever, I just wanted you to go see for yourself how stupid you sound saying that miss st had better talent on the lines.
Posted on 12/21/17 at 9:54 am to Rickdaddy4188
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yes. the mountain top of his head coaching career is beating a 3 loss auburn team. ive repeatedly given him credit for it
You do realize that the other 2 losses were against 2 of the 4 playoff teams and one of those they routed the 1st time they played them? I know you like to emphasize the 3 loss bit, but you know that's not the whole story. Auburn beat Bama, routed Georgia, won the West and their loss to Clemson was without their best player (Kerryon Johnson).
That being said, this season was not a huge success. LSU had mixed results and a solid finish after a woeful start.
This whole schtick of the anti-O's and the O pumpers is really getting old. Both sides need to let it go and just support the team. I know that's an unrealistic expectation, but one can hope.
Posted on 12/21/17 at 9:58 am to Topwater Trout
Why do you even argue with the O haters he will never be good enough? Enjoy the holidays and watch for Flboo in the crowd at the bowl game.
Geaux
Geaux

Posted on 12/21/17 at 10:02 am to FLBooGoTigs1
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Why do you even argue with the O haters he will never be good enough?
Exactly....is he succeeds...it will mean they were wrong.
Posted on 12/21/17 at 10:10 am to FLBooGoTigs1
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Why do you even argue with the O haters he will never be good enough?
It's entertaining getting them mad and then watching the downvotes because they know they can't legitimately answer my question without looking like idiots so they just downvote
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Enjoy the holidays and watch for Flboo in the crowd at the bowl game.
sweet! beating the irish is a great way to bring in the New Year
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