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re: Looks like Troy will have an 11 win season
Posted on 12/20/17 at 9:17 pm to RedTigerRulz
Posted on 12/20/17 at 9:17 pm to RedTigerRulz
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Yea I bet you would...like this shite happened routinely with miles.
5 times we into the bama game top 5.
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Posted on 12/20/17 at 9:19 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Why does it bother you so much if someone craps on Miles??????
Posted on 12/20/17 at 9:20 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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the irony. to this day youll bring up 1/9/12 and that lost put us at #2 in the country. the miss st loss happened this ye
We did absolutely nothing different in our game plan from the November game to the sec championship game and the bcsncg. If you remember Georgia shut us down in 1st half of sec game. Miles was so stubborn and unwilling to change though that he never had a back up game plan...that is what was so inexcusable about the 1/9/12 game. You knew when we fell behind we were doomed. I’ve never experienced more frustration watching an LSU game in my life. With all that was on the line no other game was that disappointing to me.
ETA- had it been a great game that we lost it would have been okay...but it was complete domination
This post was edited on 12/20/17 at 9:22 pm
Posted on 12/20/17 at 9:21 pm to Madking
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Secondly i don’t makeup how “record vs ranked teams is measured” that’s how it goes and it goes that way because win or lose their ranking is directly effected by what happens in the game you face them. Y
you know good and well final rankings are an infinitely better way of judging how good a team is over where they started.
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You’re calling me agenda driven when it’s you trying to re-define and alter the way recites are kep
because i dont count interim tenures?
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Maybe because it’s the holidays you’re on vacation and not currently in reality and when you get home you’ll make more sense.
says the guy that bashed 3 loss seasons under one coach but not the other.Posted on 12/20/17 at 9:22 pm to Madking
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I’ve also said many times that each season should have expectations specific to that team and season not the blanket expectations you guys love to talk about.
the blanket expectations of not being ok with lsu losing to vastly inferior teams, regardless of the coach?
Posted on 12/20/17 at 9:28 pm to Madking
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This is exactly what people are talking about, this is the first season people have complained about wins vs bad teams.
bullshite. this was done for miles too. what we did against inferior teams was deemed meaningless. hell what we did before november was meaningless. that happened.
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You’re actually holding an improved recird against him
against him? im stating facts.
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you didn’t butch when McNeese gave us cuts under Miles you didn’t knock the 2010
ive repeatedly said miles had unacceptable losses. my god bruh. stop making stances up and attributing them to me.thats the same thing you said i was doing to you.
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but now all of the sudden wins are being devalued.
its the same thing people did to miles.
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There are reasons to doubt O but what you’re doing is over the top and biased.
where the hell have you been i this thread? i just said if we win our bowl game its an ok year.
that ok year in no way erases O' past as a head coach or removes the bad from this season.
im sorry facts about O's tenure looks like overboard bashing.
Posted on 12/20/17 at 9:29 pm to dukke v
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But what about 2008 and 2009 and 2013 and 2014 and 2015??? What happened AFTER week 5 matters just as much as before week 5.... Just sayin......
week were talking about 2 losses by week 5
Posted on 12/20/17 at 9:36 pm to Madking
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But what about 2008 and 2009 and 2013 and 2014 and 2015??? What happened AFTER week 5 matters just as much as before week 5.... Just sayin......
because its the worst loss in history of a perennial sec doormat. they were average this year and totally dominated us. both losses are bad.
while miles did have bad lossesn HE ALSO had great wins. something O doesnt have.
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That’s shallow and ignorant Miss State under Mullin is not Miss State 1988 so using history is just misleading.
since 2010 they have 1 winning season in conf. they have 3 losing seasons in conf
Posted on 12/20/17 at 9:39 pm to dukke v
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YET we lost three straight game
#1 bama
#10 ole miss
Arkansas
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A team improving as the season goes on or not...
id rather not have the season over by week 5. the games lose a lot of their importance.
but its subjective
Posted on 12/20/17 at 9:40 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Auburn doesn’t count as a great win for O?
Posted on 12/20/17 at 9:43 pm to Madking
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Wisky wouldn’t have been a top 10 team if wedve won that game and that’s the point.
the final ranking shows what kind of team you lost too.
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You don’t change the Florida 97 win vs a number 1 ranked team because they didn’t finish number 1 do you?
i never said change it. i said the final rankings give you a far better gauge of the team you lost too.
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I mean we celebrate that win is that wrong to you
when did i say not to celebrate a win?
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You don’t retroactively change record vs ranked teams after the fact, what they’re ranked when you play them is how it’s recorded.
i said it gives a far better picture of the team you lost to.
its literally the same argument you try to use for Troy. now that they have 11 wins you say that loss isnt so bad.
why would you use that logic for O and not Miles?
Posted on 12/20/17 at 9:44 pm to Topwater Trout
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Auburn doesn’t count as a great win for O?
yes. the mountain top of his head coaching career is beating a 3 loss auburn team. ive repeatedly given him credit for it.
Posted on 12/20/17 at 9:45 pm to Topwater Trout
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had it been a great game that we lost it would have been okay...but it was complete domination
so was the 2017 miss st game.
Posted on 12/20/17 at 9:51 pm to Madking
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Lol that’s very big of you your worship.
im done for the night boys
Posted on 12/20/17 at 9:54 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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so was the 2017 miss st game.
On the road with lots of freshmen playing is not even comparable to arguably our best team ever getting dominatedfor a national title
Posted on 12/20/17 at 9:57 pm to Topwater Trout
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On the road with lots of freshmen playing is not even comparable to arguably our best team ever getting dominatedfor a national title
the talent gap between lsu and bama was marginal.
the talent gap between msu and lsu is big.
we werent even the favorites against Bama
This post was edited on 12/20/17 at 10:04 pm
Posted on 12/20/17 at 10:07 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Miss st had the better o and dlines at the time that game was played and that’s not debatable
Posted on 12/20/17 at 10:43 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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a lot of lsu fans are actually ok with losing 3 games a year as long as they like the coach
It's funny how much and how quickly the expectations have changed for some. And I love the take that has it better to be irrelevant early than later or that losing to a SBC team is not really bad as it seems. lol
Different staff , mainly same results against a much weaker strength of schedule is now acceptable. I do enjoy watching some bend over backwards making excuses for what would have been inexcusable to them before.
Posted on 12/21/17 at 1:27 am to Rickdaddy4188
No you’re changing the argument. We said Miles was 2-2 vs no ranked teams last year we never said anything about quality teams or Troy being better than people think we said vs ranked teams. All that other stuff is subjective record vs ranked teams is something thats tracked and documented teams final strength goes into strength of schedule. What you’re doing by framing it the way you are is giving credit to Miles losing games, when you beat a team their ranking drops when you lose their ranking goes up. So you’re using us losing to Wisky as a positive for Miles.
This post was edited on 12/21/17 at 1:30 am
Posted on 12/21/17 at 1:34 am to LSU Groupee
Another false narrative, we’ve been ranked in the teens 4 of the past 5 seasons. We haven’t been a perennial top 5 team since 07 and have been ranked in the top 10 once since 2012. Yes expectations have dropped but it happened under Miles a long time before Orgeron was HC at LSU.
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