re: Looks like Troy will have an 11 win season

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Never in my life would i expect you to use optics to bolster an argument.

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well imo opinion it does look better to lose to a p5 program but the issue is subjective.

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While you’re right transitive Logic is stupid you also can’t judge a team by how many pros they have or recruiting classes.

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you can when talent is what's being argued

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If you’re going to use recruiting rankings to judge success then Miles was the biggest failure of all time.

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what? he took that talent and had the most accomplished tenure ever at a top 15 all time program and one of the most accomplished tenures in sec history.


we all agree saban is the best coach in cfb and bama has the most talent and he loses to an inferior team every year. so i dont consider it a massive failure for a lesser coach to lose 2 /3.

and thats my stance on this season. win our bowl game ans its a decent season imo

No you’re changing the line here. I’m not saying he’s a failure I’m saying he had the most NFL players on his team but other coaches had much more success so judging him on NFL or recruiting classes isn’t really objective or sound logic.

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cool. deny his coaching ability all you want. but his accomplishments cant be denied.

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LSU had more future NFL players than anyone in the Miles tenure. He had success because of the talent he had, not his coaching ability.

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Lol. This is so stupid it hurts.

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Counter it. With facts.

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They're Troy. We should never lose to them.

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Hey get over the loss and realize that Troy is a good football team.

A fumble, a missed field goal, a re kick and these thing happens on the athletic field.

We lost and the team rebounded in a positive way, look for the good in the season and not the bad. We win the bowl game, finish with a 10 win season, get a few stud recruits and next season suit up again.

I see I was downvoted but wasn’t replied to with reason or logic as to why not. Other than UCF going undefeated, had that not been the case Troy was one of the teams getting AP votes they may as well have been ranked like it or not I’m just stating facts, they were a sound fundamental team, best in their conference well coached and could have bit many other power 5 teams had they been caught slipping. That night absolutely sucked but they caught LSU because their leadership was absent, they weren’t hungry, they weren’t focused, they weren’t healthy and didn’t care about defending the streak like they should have. Bottom line they were one of the top 30 teams out there this year. I fully expect them to thump North Texas in the bowl tonight and maybe get ranked in the preseason for 2018. Be on the lookout folks

Your argument is specious.
The "Star" system you refer to s a joke. Future NFL Hall of famer and Troy Univeristy alum Demarcus Ware was a zero "star" player out of high school. Yes you pretentious douche, a ZERO star recruit! So just because Troy or UCF, or Boise is not loaded with 4 or 5 star recruits doesn't make them untalented.

The staff at these schools have to take the "2 and 3 star" athletes and develop them into good (sometimes great) football players. They put them in the weight room, teach them, and get them to play with a chip on their shoulder because they didn't have 40+ offers from the P5 schools. So just because Troy was not loaded with a dozen or more 4 and 5 star recruits, doesn't mean they don'y have young men on the team that can't compete.

My original statement was that Troy's starters were better than LSU's backups (which I don't think can be disputed being as they whipped LSU's 1's for more of the game). I went on to say that some of the Troy starters were better than LSU starters at certain positions. A point that I can argue by saying, Troy's senior QB (Silvers), RBs (Chunn and Anderson) are better than LSU's Etling/Brennan at QB and RBs Williams and Dillon (and yes Guice was out, but that is football-"next man up"). And Silvers and Chunn are both being looked at by pro scouts.

You then refer to the NFL prospects on LSU's roster. Well a handful of NFL prospects among 85 scholarships on a college football team does not mean every position is better. I had a Alabama friend tell me and actually believed that recent Alabama teams could play in the NFL as a "team" and compete and win consistently. He actually believes this. It is that kind of delusional thinking that gets all the big boys beaten by the "little ole Troys" of the world. Think about that statement: Alabama could beat/compete against teams in the NFL. They would go 0-16! They would lose to the Cleveland Browns by 30+ points! But yet because LSU has more "4 and 5 star" players and more NFL prospects they are some how invincible against a G5 school like Troy. Once again I call BS and say "pride comes before the fall."

When your opponent is talented (and Troy was), works hard, comes out with a good game plan, out coaches you (and Troy did), and their players (albeit only 2 and 3 star scrubs as you would suppose) are hungry for respect, and "want it" more - well you get a lose in Death Valley to a team that on most nights might compete well but still lose, but on September 30, 2017 that team (Troy) was the better team on the field.

Take north Texas and the points today

Don't say that according to Rickdaddy and MO jeaux LSU'S 3rd stringers would beat the shite out of TROY's starters 9 out of 10 times. The only lost would be when O was the coach.