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re: Looks like Matt McMahon has a choice to make

Posted on 3/21/22 at 8:23 am to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 3/21/22 at 8:23 am to
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I’m just sick of the urban legend that is Woodward.


Woodie pissed off a lot of people when he fired Wade, which kind of shows the intelligence of the fan base since it was the 100% correct thing to do.
Posted by tigerbait01
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Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 3/21/22 at 8:24 am to
I don’t care that he don’t pull his top choice. I’m literally saying I’m sick of a certain group on here acting like he only makes calculated moves, acts like he is in control of all press leaks, and acts like he does whatever and hires whoever he wants.
Posted by geauxtigers33
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
13735 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 8:24 am to
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I’m just sick of the urban legend that is Woodward.


I still think Woodward is a good AD. I do believe that there is a portion on the rant that are extremely overvaluing him. Mainly because I think they overvalue the AD position in general when it comes to actual wins and losses.
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
24370 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 8:25 am to
Woody isn’t allowed to be criticized despite the gapping issues between his image and reality. A calculated AD doesn’t pay Ed O a full buyout considering all the issues. If Scott was as calculating as his lovers claim he gets some of that buyout down, if he had better timing he probably gets half of it back.
Posted by tigerbait01
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Posted on 3/21/22 at 8:26 am to
Agreed and they overvalue the hiring process and ability to hire when again, he’s throwing around huge amounts of money.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299175 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 8:26 am to
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I think they overvalue the AD position in general when it comes to actual wins and losses.


A new hire? Its his responsibility. You can't overstate how important the position is in that scenario.
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
24370 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 8:28 am to
Huge amounts of money and bad contract terms for the school.

The O national title raise had to be done but it could have easily been structured in better favor for LSU. His approving the Bo contract was insane when we look at all the facts at the timing of it.
Posted by tigerbait01
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Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 3/21/22 at 8:28 am to
It’s so weird you are questioning the intelligence of people and you spelled Woody in a way that I’m not sure I’ve ever seen. Maybe my intelligence level hasn’t taken me that far yet??
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
35603 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 8:29 am to
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I think he went after Riley, they didn’t just make all of that up.


I agree.

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I also don’t believe Jay Johnson was his first choice.


Also agree. O'Sullivan was his first choice well before it was made public Paul was retiring.

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All the bullshite about Woody don’t fire someone without a big fish on the line is bullshite too, I’m sorry but the dude has big pockets of other people’s money. It’s easy to make hires when you know you are throwing around a large amount of cash, you always have the security of knowing someone will bite.


I don't disagree. But, he does get the money people to give him the money necessary to bring in the big names. So there is some credit given for that.

IMO, this basketball hire is the toughest one he's had to make yet. In baseball LSU is one of the few programs nationally that invests heavily in the sport. That means they don't have a ton of competition in the marketplace when it comes to hiring a new HC.

In football, LSU is one of the top ten jobs in the nation. Maybe top 5 if you consider the program has won 3 NC's and played for a 4th over the last 20 years...with three different HC's. If a coach wants to win a NC there are very few programs you can look at and say "you can absolutely win one there". LSU is on that short list. Kelly came as a surprise because everyone thought "why would someone leave Notre Dame to go to LSU?". Well, that would have been a very valid question 30-40 years ago. Now, I think most would agree LSU has been the better program over the last two decades. Kelly reached the BCS/CFP three times. And all three times he was simply overmatched by the talent on the other side. It wasn't just the money LSU offered. It was the knowledge he could get the talent here were he wouldn't be overmatched in those games.

It was a big surprise Mulkey would leave her Baylor program while she, and it, were still at the top of their game. But she had a strong connection to the state. Born here. Raised here. Went to school here. Had a child that played for LSU.

With the basketball job there is no top tier HC out there with a strong connection to LA. The program, unlike baseball and football, doesn't carry the national clout those two do. It is not a "destination" job. So getting a huge name would seem to be very difficult.

STILL, hiring the Murray St. coach is not, IMO, the ideal choice.
Posted by rob62
Member since Sep 2016
5165 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 8:34 am to
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Let's fire Wade but keep Verge. Nostradamus Scotty


You do realize that Wade hung himself. Well even if you don't realize it Wade did it to himself. Regarding Verge, the Title IX situation is on going and LSU may need Verge’s assistance.
Posted by tigerbait01
Sec. 423 Row 18
Member since Jul 2007
4085 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 8:34 am to
Agree with everything you said. We are about to find out just how powerful their boy Woody is. If he pulls Scott Drew though, I will be first one to say wow.
Posted by LSUChamps03
S. Louisiana
Member since Feb 2006
3156 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 8:38 am to
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It’s out of us and South Carolina supposedly.


As of yesterday S. Carolina wants McMahon, but he wants LSU. No offer had been extended from LSU yet.
Posted by Pnels08
Member since Jul 2014
10580 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 8:41 am to
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As of yesterday S. Carolina wants McMahon, but he wants LSU. No offer had been extended from LSU yet.



That's what it sounds like.

tWood may be keeping McMahon on the back burner, hopefully he can snag someone with a little more pedigree but McMahon wouldn't be a bad safety valve.
Posted by tigerbait01
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Member since Jul 2007
4085 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 8:41 am to
You make a valid point. The man don’t care about money. Look at Fisher’s contract! I know A&M has the money, but that’s not the point.
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
24370 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 8:41 am to
Everyday it drags on without Scott here the less likely he is to come. Scott Drew has been out of the tourny now a few days. If you are going to get him you have to make a move soon.

Posted by Bottom9
Arsenal Til I Die
Member since Jul 2010
25204 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 8:43 am to
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You do realize that Wade hung himself


I realize Coach Wade made an awful mistake "allegedly" but I also realize that he did that with ZERO Administrative backing from Alleva or Woodward.

Wade invested his own salary and had to do things his own way because our admins simply don't give a shite about Basketball despite the potential for a massive return on investment. Wade had no backing from admins, boosters, and other people of influence (Dale Brown, Collis Temple, etc). He fricked up but he saw the potential here that apparently our admins don't see or give a frick about.
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
24370 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 8:43 am to
The contract is awful for Aggie but they don’t care. It’s a lot of money to never win the west lol. I will give Scott this they told him here is a blank check go get jimbo so he did.

He didn’t have to give him the full buyout though, jimbo wanted out of the fsu dumpster fire he built.

Posted by Skillet
Member since Aug 2006
113827 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 8:45 am to
Woody never shows his hand, so this is all a bunch of bullshite guessing.
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
24370 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 8:45 am to
Wade isn’t the first ncaa coach to run into ncaa trouble. Cal has a history, Pearl as well including at all 3 of his stops, kelvin sampson and so on.

There are only a few big time coaches without any really nasty recruiting dirt on them: mark few and maybe Tom Izzy who has his own mini pedo state issue that got buried for him.
Posted by KC Tiger
Member since Sep 2006
5004 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 8:54 am to
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I think he went after Riley, they didn’t just make all of that up.


Who is “they”? The media? Yea, they wouldn’t just make something up.
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