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Posted on 4/28/19 at 8:10 am to nicksaur3
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Boy those O haters are MADDDD
Give it a rest.
I, for one, have never been a believer in Orgeron, but I would be nothing short of elated for him to succeed, so that we don't have to sit through who knows how many years of mediocrity, waiting for him to be fired. I'd much rather he just make a believer of all of us, and win big.
By the way, LSU has kept key figures of this staff together for a long time, and they have always been outstanding recruiters. Why are we acting like Orgeron has done something different?
Right this second, the recruiting is on an uncommon roll, but there is a long way to go, and I've been excited by recruiting classes before, only to end up with the status quo on the field. I'll reserve my judgement.
Posted on 4/28/19 at 8:15 am to Tiger on the Rag
You are 100% correct, more schools ARE going all out to win it. But LSU is in the position that very few schools are, and should be winning significantly more hardware than we do, (see bama).
Posted on 4/28/19 at 8:17 am to Metaloctopus
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Why are we acting like Orgeron has done something different
Because he is doing something different.
Posted on 4/28/19 at 8:17 am to tigahlovah
You could say that for every school in this conference. Bama is holding all of us back from winning big.
Posted on 4/28/19 at 8:32 am to bencoleman
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Because he is doing something different.
Yeah? Name it. Blanket statements don't make for sound arguments. We've had a staff full of elite recruiters for years. Why does Orgeron get all the credit? If it's all about him, then why couldn't he recruit at Ole Miss? When you're at a place like LSU, you can sell recruits on the program. When you are at Ole Miss, you have to sell them on you, because your program doesn't have a track record worth touting. Orgeron couldn't sell himself there.
But we're supposed to anoint him, because of a good couple of months in recruiting here? He's got a lot left to prove before you can say he's doing something "different".
Posted on 4/28/19 at 8:38 am to TH03
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Like people will be upset with O succeeding.
It's not so much that they are upset about CRO succeeding as it is that they are upset about being wrong. It's the same handful of posters who did not want to give the man a chance and trashed him everyday for months last year. Those who were simply upset about the hiring process and initially disappointed with the hire have or are starting to get over it. Those aren't the folks being referred to as "haters," at least they shouldn't be IMO.
Posted on 4/28/19 at 8:42 am to tadelatt
I tell you what, if only you could have lived through the Stovall days of just hoping to go to a bowl game season you would really appreciate what we have right now.
Posted on 4/28/19 at 8:47 am to tadelatt
It's early - how many decommit ?
Posted on 4/28/19 at 8:48 am to Metaloctopus
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But we're supposed to anoint him
Just appreciate what we have now and stop trying to marginalize everything that happens. You'll be much happier.
Posted on 4/28/19 at 8:50 am to Metaloctopus
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Yeah? Name it.
He's recruiting California and actually getting results in an area that LSU hasn't historically been successful in before. He's going into areas along the east coast that LSU has traditionally never shown any interest in before. More importantly he's getting results and a lot of positive feedback from those and other areas.
So yes O is doing something different, I'm sorry that you can't see it.
Posted on 4/28/19 at 8:57 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Just appreciate what we have now and stop trying to marginalize everything that happens. You'll be much happier.
I'M not marginalizing anyone, I'm being realistic. Did you forget who I responded to? A person who isn't happy with "what we have now", so he tries to make a dig on people who he deems "O haters".
I'm perfectly happy with the way the recruiting is going at the moment. But to give one guy all of the credit, in an attempt to say "gotcha" is just dumb.
This post was edited on 4/28/19 at 9:08 am
Posted on 4/28/19 at 8:59 am to Tiger1988
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Cost the program to forfeit their only title while he was there.
USC was National Champion in 2003 as well.
Posted on 4/28/19 at 9:01 am to tadelatt
Great! Getting back to where Les had us.
Posted on 4/28/19 at 9:04 am to bencoleman
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He's recruiting California and actually getting results in an area that LSU hasn't historically been successful in before.
You are right, LSU never signed a kid from Cali.
Let's forget that 2007 team was 51% from out of state because of how bad Louisiana was after Katrina.
How about this. Start winning the west. Les had #5 #2 #5. That's the talent he left Orgeron.
Posted on 4/28/19 at 9:05 am to bencoleman
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He's recruiting California and actually getting results in an area that LSU hasn't historically been successful in before. He's going into areas along the east coast that LSU has traditionally never shown any interest in before. More importantly he's getting results and a lot of positive feedback from those and other areas.
So yes O is doing something different, I'm sorry that you can't see it.
That's all fantastic. Do you know that he'll continue to recruit those areas well? We've had California kids before, just not many. It's nice that we're getting a couple (as of now) from there again. Is he doing it by himself, though? Because, in reading some of these "hey O haters" threads, you'd swear Orgeron were the sole recruiter. You'd also swear that we've actually won anything significant in the last 8 years.
Posted on 4/28/19 at 9:06 am to Metaloctopus
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Metaloctopus
Another high strung critical coonass who thinks he has all of the answers.
Posted on 4/28/19 at 9:07 am to tadelatt
Wait a minute, dont mean to rain on your parade, but the fact he out recruited UW for Reggie, is not something to brag about. Didnt Reggie & USCw get busted for his recruitment?
Posted on 4/28/19 at 9:09 am to Metaloctopus
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By the way, LSU has kept key figures of this staff together for a long time, and they have always been outstanding recruiters.
LSU's two leading recruiters are Dennis Johnson (Meatball) at #5 in the nation and Bill Busch at #7. Can you explain how both of these coaches or "key figures" have been kept together for a long time?
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Why are we acting like Orgeron has done something different?
Ha Ha Ha. You are just here to argue and don't know shite about LSU's class. Bill Busch the #7 recruiter in the nation is responsible for ALL THREE California recruits. He was responsible for "Apu" the #1 player out of UTAH last class. See anything different at all here?
Ha Ha Ha Ha
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I'll reserve my judgement.
Please take your time and keep it to yourself. It probably won't be any more informed then than it is now.
Posted on 4/28/19 at 9:12 am to tigerbait2010
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yeah, the nerve many of us had to question hiring the worst coach (record wise at the very least) in Ole Miss history was at best a questionable hire.
That was then, this is now. There are many successful coaches whose first gigs were unsuccessful. I would say that Orgeron has done enough to earn everyone's support.
He's taken positive steps after early missteps. Enhancing the analyst staff; bringing in Brady; giving Arranda the safety coach he wanted; and the recruiting trends are all positive signals that he is a different coach than he was at Ole Miss.
If you read the comments of many on this forum you would think LSU has followed the same trajectory as Texas, Tennessee, USC, Florida, Michigan, Miami and others after they canned or lost long time established, successful coaches. That has not occurred.
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