re: [Long Post] Objective Assessment: Clemson is the BEST Team We Will Play

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I mean when you compare the final three games of the season that both LSU and Clemson have played, it is crystal clear that LSU has a significantly better defense. I mean, Clemson gave up an average of 359 yards of total offense against South Carolina, Virginia, and Ohio State. While LSU gave up an average of 259 yards of total offense to Texas A&M, Georgia, and Oklahoma.

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I can’t even believe I’m responding to this post, but you at least provided your reasoning.

Clemson gave up an average of 359 yards in those games. That’s fine. USCe put up 3 points. UVA put up 17. None of it means a damn thing because all of those games were blowouts except for OSU. If you watched those games you’ll know that both Clemson and LSU players back off because the games were out of reach. The stats don’t mean shite here.

I covered the UGA game already. You’re delusional if you think it’s even remotely comparable to OSU in your aforementioned three game stretch.

Again, I am not putting down LSU’s offense or saying they’ll be stopped. But putting Clemson down solely based on their schedule is garbage.


Clemson and OSU—with of course LSU—are in a completely different level. All the other competition they’ve played this year cannot be used to justify an LSU blowout

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Ross = Julio Jones

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keep seeing this nonsense. Ross is not nearly as strong and not as fast as Julio was

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Higgins = AJ Green

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nonsense. not even close

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Rogers: reminds me of Steve Smith with the ball in his hands and route running.

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any more hyperbolic takes??

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osted by Jabontik on 1/5/20 at 7:18 pm to The Detroit Lions quote: -OU: even if OU had all of their players, this would’ve been a blowout. No takeaways from this game. Since you did not take anything away from the last game we played, let me help you: 1) Most TDs responsible for in a College Football Playoff game. 2) Most passing TDs in a College Football Playoff game. 3) An LSU school-record for most passing TDs in a game. 4) Most TD passes combined between two College Football Playoff games. (note that we have only played one so far) 5) A Peach Bowl record for most passing TDs. 6) Tied the record for most passing touchdowns in a bowl game. (Any bowl game ever played) 7) Tied the FBS record for most passing TDs in a half. 8) Most total touchdowns all-time in a bowl game. 9) Most individual touchdowns all-time in an SEC game. 10) receiving yards in a College Football Playoff game. 11) Points in a College Football Playoff half. 12) Points in a College Football Playoff game. This post was edited on 1/5 at 7:21 pm

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I covered the OU game already. It does not provide anything of use for LSU v Clemson. You’re basically using stats versus a AA team that was missing starters on both sides of the ball. OU didn’t belong there.

AGAIN, THIS DOESNT TAKE AWAY FROM LSU’S DOMINANCE/BROKEN RECORDS. But how the hell is this comparable to watching OSU/Clemson tape????

If you’re scouting both teams, the OU tape is likely one you spend the LEAST amount of time on. LSU even started recycling plays from UGA.

The Clemson/OSU game tape is gold for scouting and told us a lot about Clemson.

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Bama’s schedule was pathetic. The rankings don’t mean shite.

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What does that make Clemson's schedule?

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Lost in the sea of downvotes, I’m still listening to any sound reasoning as to why?

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Because nobody has slowed down this offense. The Auburn game was a mixture of reasons and very little of it had anything to do with Auburn (just look at how Bana shredded them and our offense is better than Bama’s).
The wet field was a factor. We played low risk/low reward offense against them because of the field and because we had ZERO respect for their shitty offense. We knew that 21 points would very likely win that game.

Florida was the first big defense we faced all year. We slow played them in the first half because I don’t think the coaches fully trusted the offense at that time going up against a real defense. Once it became clear that they couldn’t stop us, we took that game over.

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Quality of opponents?

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LSU played a historically difficult schedule and should be considered for the greatest season in the history of college football.

OSU tops any one team LSU played when considering both sides of the ball.

None of the teams we played are nearly as complete as Clemson or OSU.

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I covered the OU game already. It does not provide anything of use for LSU v Clemson

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So a historically dominant performance vs the #4 team in the country provides nothing of use, but Clemson getting lucky and beating the #2 team by the skin of their teeth means LSU is in trouble?

Clemson's offense has better receivers than Oklahoma and a more accurate passer than Oklahoma and a far better defense than Oklahoma. They STILL will be dependent upon the legs of their quarterback to be successful. Lawrence is not the runner that Hurts was. His ability to run can be neutralized. The "x" factor in this game is Etienne. LSU is going to score lots of points. I don't think that Clemson can keep up.

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Question you should ask yourself is this: how would this acknowledged great Clemson team compare to those other great historical teams? And would that not be the same result playing against this LSU team?

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You make some valid points, but your focus is on record breaking for one side of the ball.

I don’t think Clemson, put in our shoes, breaks records like we did.

Hell, given the way Clemson played the first half of the season, they’d have two losses playing our schedule.

But breaking offensive records does not mean you will steam roll a team.


I have no reason to believe our offense will be efficient and put up points. This simply doesn’t correlate with us stopping Clemson or that they are they best/most complete team we’ve played all year—which is the entire thesis of my original post.

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I have no reason to believe our offense will be efficient and put up points. This simply doesn’t correlate with us stopping Clemson or that they are they best/most complete team we’ve played all year—which is the entire thesis of my original post.

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They may be the most “complete team” but that doesn’t mean their defense or offense is the best we’ve faced all year. I would argue that their offense is not as good as Bama’s (and I have the stats to back that up) and their defense is not as good as Georgia’s (and I have the stats to back that up).

We shredded Georgia’s defense.
We stopped Bama’s offense many times and this defense has gotten far better since then.