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Posted on 3/5/21 at 10:55 am to
Posted by Tigercowboy
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Posted on 3/5/21 at 10:55 am to
Correct the accused.

Who should have rights to appeal the decisions but from what it sounded like it was 3 or 4 different levels to appeal to before the case would be closed.
This post was edited on 3/5/21 at 10:57 am
Posted by Epaminondas
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Member since Jul 2020
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Posted on 3/5/21 at 10:55 am to
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I guess our gross incompetence across the board saved him. [Verge Ausberry]
Good point. It seems too lenient which makes LSU look bad but on the other hand, it makes LSU look bad if it looks like they are pinning on one or just a few people when LSU as a whole did a poor job.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
55975 posts
Posted on 3/5/21 at 10:56 am to
Schools are damned if they do and damned if they don't.
They either didn't do enough or if you falsely accuse someone like what happened at Duke with lacrosse than you expose the university as well.
Posted by NolaTiger52
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2018
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Posted on 3/5/21 at 10:58 am to
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Schools are damned if they do and damned if they don't.
They either didn't do enough or if you falsely accuse someone like what happened at Duke with lacrosse than you expose the university as well.

So why not tell these girls to go to the police? Then, once there is a verdict, LSU can make a decision
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 3/5/21 at 10:59 am to
I believe they did go to LSU Police
Was the ball dropped there?
Was their not enough evidence for them to proceed?
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 3/5/21 at 11:00 am to
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Then, once there is a verdict, LSU can make a decision


Ok, that’s great but in cases where there was sexual assault, what do you do as a victim for the years a case like that can drag on while your rapist sits a row behind you in Econ?

There needs to be some school intervention. even if it is a process to keep them away from each other.
This post was edited on 3/5/21 at 11:03 am
Posted by Epaminondas
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Posted on 3/5/21 at 11:00 am to
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I don’t know why this is a school problem, and not a police problem. How can LSU have hearings if they cannot legally decide if a person is guilty of a crime.
I don't disagree with you but federal law makes it a school problem, right or wrong. If the LSU administration doesn't jump through the hoops, this is what happens.
Posted by Tigercowboy
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 3/5/21 at 11:01 am to
Because due process takes time to get a conviction...

LSU has a responsibility to it students to protect them. IF there is evidence of abuse the abuser needs to be removed from campus immediately not six months later.
Posted by Tigeralum2008
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Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 3/5/21 at 11:08 am to
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I believe they did go to LSU Police
Was the ball dropped there?
Was their not enough evidence for them to proceed?


Policy dictated LSUPD should report it to the Title IX office. Those actions were not always taken
Posted by SUB
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Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 3/5/21 at 11:16 am to
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LSU has a responsibility to it students to protect them.


Right

The problem is

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evidence of abuse


It doesn't seem very clear what the threshold is for evidence in order for action to be taken. I'll admit that I'm not super well versed in Title IX, but it seems that punitive actions taken from Title IX can be vastly different depending on the university, which doesn't seem right.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
77896 posts
Posted on 3/5/21 at 11:17 am to
Campus police will be banned from postseason participation.
Posted by Murtown
OT Ballerville
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 3/5/21 at 11:47 am to
I can hardly understand what any of the reporters are asking. Especially the chick that is double masked.
This post was edited on 3/5/21 at 1:22 pm
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
10923 posts
Posted on 3/5/21 at 11:50 am to
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Why are schools being expected to handle these things instead of the actual police?


they aren’t.

it’s a completely separate and independent investigation that is required.

and there are things that would be Title IX infractions that can get you suspended or even kicked out of school that are not against state law.
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
10923 posts
Posted on 3/5/21 at 11:51 am to
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So basically athletes didn't receive special treatment, because all cases were handled inappropriately?

That's an interesting approach.


that’s basically the same approach UNC used in their academic scandal.
No NCAA penalties came from that scandal because of it.
Posted by Syntax
FL390
Member since Aug 2020
976 posts
Posted on 3/5/21 at 12:12 pm to
Good. So a big nothing burger. Everyone can carry on.
Posted by Geaux62
Member since Jan 2020
600 posts
Posted on 3/5/21 at 12:22 pm to
I hope all these kids that are accused moving forward realize that they will be automatically guilty and be perp-walked off campus. There will be no due process. You better never be alone with a girl. This has nothing to do with the validity of the claim.
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