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Posted on 4/18/16 at 7:52 pm to thunderbird1100
Not at all are you telling me the big ten is on par with the sec? Especially when it comes to the front 7 on d? Tell me you're joking
Posted on 4/18/16 at 7:58 pm to GoldenBoy
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Can you explain this? I realize that we've had small LB's but that's even less of a fit in a 3-4.
unfortunately for the small OLB, they don't really fit in the 3-4
The lose their jobs to what used to DE, unless they can pass rush. But look at Kwon. he plays MLB the NFL.
Posted on 4/18/16 at 8:03 pm to thunderbird1100
any way you slice it, we will be bigger in the front 7 than we have been. Moves a lot of our small 4-3 DE's to 3-4 OLB's. If we need even more size we can play Devin White along side Beckwith at ILB. Bower and Key who were very small DE's are now good size OLB's. Big players up front such as Godcheaux, Lacoture, Gilmore, Herron, Lawerence, and Alexander. We can go plenty big if we need to. In the 4-3 we always had very small DE's with very small OLB's. Going to the 3-4 puts more size on the front 7. Neal will be fine. He is strong for his size and there will be plenty enough big bodies around him. Anyway he played DT at 255 lbs a couple years ago. I don't see size in the front 7 being a issue anymore.
Posted on 4/18/16 at 8:09 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Which D1 team are you the DC for dumbass?
Posted on 4/18/16 at 9:53 pm to boxcar willie
If we really want to go big against Bama and Arky we can go with a set like
Key (231) White (255) Beckwith (252) Washington (241)
Godchaux (293) Gilmore (313) Lacouture (307)
Thats a big front seven, and I don't think unrealistic by the time we play in November. Compared to having Lamar lewis (231) and Deion Jones (225) at OLB, and Key (231) and Neal (262)
Key (231) White (255) Beckwith (252) Washington (241)
Godchaux (293) Gilmore (313) Lacouture (307)
Thats a big front seven, and I don't think unrealistic by the time we play in November. Compared to having Lamar lewis (231) and Deion Jones (225) at OLB, and Key (231) and Neal (262)
Posted on 4/18/16 at 9:59 pm to Madking
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Not at all are you telling me the big ten is on par with the sec? Especially when it comes to the front 7 on d? Tell me you're joking
We've played with 205-215 pound linebackers for years here. It doesnt how matter how big they are, if they can play, they can play.
Kwon Alexander was a beast and played around 215-220 pounds at LB. Do you think he'd be too small to play ILB in Aranda's 3-4? Because he's not too small to play ILB in the NFL.
Let me go on...
Harry Coleman
Ryan Baker
Debo Jones
...my point getting across yet?
Get out of here with the SEC is too tough and big BS, if you can play you can make it.
This post was edited on 4/18/16 at 10:06 pm
Posted on 4/18/16 at 10:48 pm to pr3sg1ad
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Which D1 team are you the DC for dumbass?
You dont need to be a d1 coach to see our des dont have the athleticism to stand up and drop in coverage. Anyone with basic knowledge of the nfl roster and the 3-4 defense can see this. Sorry you cant see it.
Posted on 4/18/16 at 10:52 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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You dont need to be a d1 coach to see our des dont have the athleticism to stand up and drop in coverage. Anyone with basic knowledge of the nfl roster and the 3-4 defense can see this. Sorry you cant see it.
Have you watched Key play football? and apparently Aranda disagrees as Bower was out there "standing up and dropping in coverage" as well.
Posted on 4/18/16 at 11:31 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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You dont need to be a d1 coach to see our des dont have the athleticism to stand up and drop in coverage. Anyone with basic knowledge of the nfl roster and the 3-4 defense can see this. Sorry you cant see it.
Uhh what?
And actually, the DEs are considered OLBs in this scheme. Key, Bower, Washington, Corey Thompson, Michael Divinity, Teuhema, Thornton, Andre Anthony, etc are the guys that will be playing OLB. All of them are highly atheltic and capable of dropping into coverage.
Guys like Lewis Neal, Deondre Clark, Herron, etc are playing the DE position in this scheme and won't be dropping into coverage.
1 of the best things about Aranda is that he knows how to put his players in position to succeed and positions they match their skillset. He's not going to ask players that aren't that athletic or skilled to drop into coverage. Dude knows what he is doing.
Posted on 4/18/16 at 11:45 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Ricky Jackson Kevin green, Charles Haley none of these guys can cover but were pretty effective in the 3-4
Posted on 4/18/16 at 11:46 pm to Madking
If you're not athletic enough to cover the flat you shouldn't be on an sec team
Posted on 4/18/16 at 11:52 pm to thunderbird1100
What you're not gettin is olbs in a 3-4 often have to set the edge vs the run and a 210-215 lb guy isn't going to do that in our league the 3-4 requires bigger olbs and ilbs because the of setting the edge and the play side ilb often has to take on a guard these are not asked of 4-3 lbs so you're point is not a point at all you're incorrect on what you think certain size players can and cannot do
Posted on 4/19/16 at 12:45 am to Rickdaddy4188
Key is athletic as hell. And didn't Washington have a pick in the spring game?
Posted on 4/19/16 at 12:52 am to SammyTiger
One thing you can't accuse our defense of is not being athletic enough to do anything
Also Aranda has a history of changing his defense to fit the personnel. If we don't have the right guys to run that scheme, we wouldn't be running it
Also Aranda has a history of changing his defense to fit the personnel. If we don't have the right guys to run that scheme, we wouldn't be running it
Posted on 4/19/16 at 2:34 am to thunderbird1100
And finally the sec is too tough and too big to be playing 260lb 3-4 ends and 210 ilbs if you don't realize that there's a huge difference between an upper level sec defense compared to a second tier big ten defense then you don't know a thing about college football
Posted on 4/19/16 at 6:29 am to Madking
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Ricky Jackson Kevin green, Charles Haley none of these guys can cover but were pretty effective in the 3-4
Again i never said it would make the 3-4 in effective. Reading comprehension is key. I said it takes away the advantage of running a 3-4. Congrats on naming some of the greatest olb in history though. Not sure we have those at lsu.
Posted on 4/19/16 at 6:30 am to wildtigercat93
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One thing you can't accuse our defense of is not being athletic enough to do anything
Yes you can when youre asking 260 lbs de to drop in coverage.
This post was edited on 4/19/16 at 6:30 am
Posted on 4/19/16 at 6:32 am to KG5989
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And actually, the DEs are considered OLBs in this scheme. Key, Bower, Washington, Corey Thompson, Michael Divinity, Teuhema, Thornton, Andre Anthony, etc are the guys that will be playing OLB. All of them are highly atheltic and capable of dropping into coverage.
bullshite. all of 2 of our de could drop in coverage. good god taKe off the homer glasses.
This post was edited on 4/19/16 at 6:48 am
Posted on 4/19/16 at 6:41 am to SammyTiger
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Key is athletic as hell. And didn't Washington have a pick in the spring game?
So 2 on our entire defense? Running a 3-4 in college takes recruiting for a 3-4. Im not saying we cant get there or that our defense will be bad while running it. All im saying is that with the personal we have the lb they send will probably be evident.
Posters on here that think we have a bunch of de that can drop in coverage are stupid.
This post was edited on 4/19/16 at 6:41 am
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