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re: Letter to the Advocate - Unhappy fans

Posted on 1/21/10 at 3:45 pm to
Posted by geaux99
Wamegeaux, KS
Member since Aug 2005
1619 posts
Posted on 1/21/10 at 3:45 pm to
quote:

96 was a very blah 10 win season


A blah 10-win season? I didn't know Miles Apologists recognized such a thing. After all, everytime someone points out the disastrous course of this football program, an MA responds with "51 wins, dude...you can't be serious," or the fabled, pre-Cap One Bowl quote: "Hey Chicken Little...overreact much? We're gonna finish with 10 fricking wins."

So let me get this straight: If Gerry's Kids go out and win 10 games, but don't beat anyone important, don't win the West, and play in a non-BCS Bowl, it's a blah season. If Less has a 10...er...9-win season, it solidifies him as the right coach and justifies the amount of money he's paid.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295724 posts
Posted on 1/21/10 at 3:48 pm to
Here is a link to John Coopers career at Ohio St. Last two conference records are identical to LSU's last two.

LINK
Posted by danfraz
San Antonio TX
Member since Apr 2008
24550 posts
Posted on 1/21/10 at 3:48 pm to
quote:

9-win season, it solidifies him as the right coach and justifies the amount of money he's paid.




where have I said that?

But it also doesn't call for him to be fired fool
Posted by lsuexpert57
Back Brusly
Member since Oct 2008
1634 posts
Posted on 1/21/10 at 3:51 pm to
I just don't get how more people just don't truly understand college football today. It's about talent and your QB. Les Miles will never be a Curly Hallman because he can RECRUIT! If you can round up all the best talent you don't have to be the best X and O guy in the game...far from it. Don't belive it? Check out how well Bob Stoops and Pete Carrol did this year without a good QB. How come Nick Saban couldn't dominate at Michigan St? How come Spurrier is pedestrian at USC? The best coaches in the game can't win unless they are at places they can recruit. First you have to recruit well and then get lucky with your QB. AND your schedule. How about if we swapped schedules with Bama the last two years and let them play Fla twice and we play Tenn twice. Anyone think there wouldn't have been a different result. The thing that makes most of the nega tigers on here so tiresome is that they don't really understand the nature of the college game today...or really football in general. They have a simplistic view of the game that generally parrots TV announcers or sportswriters opinions. This is evidenced mostly in their take on the end of the Ole Miss game and the Penn State game. Find me a sportswriter who has ever played or coached the game and you have a true rarity. It would take me a book to explain how most are ignorant about the end of those games...and it would do no good as negatigers and rantards rarely listen to logic or real world football explanations.

At the end of the day, it will not come down to Les Miles football acumen. It will come down to whether or not he can continue to reel in top ten recruiting classes and then get lucky with his QB. RP hurt us and JJ is just "OK" and until we improve at that position we will continue to see results that are less than satisfactory. But a great QB can fix a lot of ills. How in the heck do you think Curley Hallman got this job in the first place? Remember a guy named Brett Favre?
Posted by Bobby Moore
Red Hill, Mississippi
Member since Jun 2005
17751 posts
Posted on 1/21/10 at 3:54 pm to
A. Wayne Stewart
lawyer
Denham Springs


is an idiot......
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 1/21/10 at 3:57 pm to
I only read the first 2-3 sentences of your post.
Thats all I needed to.

I agree.
Posted by LJBurton
Member since Feb 2005
1384 posts
Posted on 1/21/10 at 3:59 pm to
The only exception I take with the author is the use of the terms "embarrassment" and "humiliation." Seems a bit extreme to me. After all, at the end of the day, it's just football. Nothing to be embarrassed about.

The guy's just not a very good coach. This has become obvious to most everyone now, save for a select few true believers and apologists.

I am pleased the Advocate printed the letter. The displeasure with Miles is not limited to the "rantards." It is permeating through the entire fan base. So much so, that I would venture to say that Miles has more detractors than he does supporters.

It won't be long. I doubt he makes it to 1/1/11 as LSU's head football coach. Hopefully, Aleva is bright enough to realize this inevitability, and has quietly begun some informal discussions on potential replacements. Now is the time to gauge interest and develop a short list. If done properly, we should easily upgrade from Miles to someone that gives us a real chance at a dynasty.
Posted by whodatigahbait
Uptown
Member since Oct 2007
1834 posts
Posted on 1/21/10 at 4:05 pm to
your right polar bear. i wanna hire mike leach
Posted by Reggaefan
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2008
220 posts
Posted on 1/21/10 at 4:08 pm to
The letter didn't say LSU fans it said LSU fan and yes he is an idiot
Posted by geaux99
Wamegeaux, KS
Member since Aug 2005
1619 posts
Posted on 1/21/10 at 4:08 pm to
quote:

where have I said that?


I bet you couldn't keep a straight face when you typed the above sentence. Danfraz, you are amongst the biggest Miles Apologists on the board. Everything you write is an Ode to your confidence/man-crush in/on Miles.

You say you've never expressed your belief that Miles is the right man for the job and that his work product warrants the amount of money he makes...Yet you criticize a letter to an editor (calling it an embarassment) that criticizes Miles for being overpaid and unfit to coach the LSU football team. And I have suspicion that come October, you'll come around to my way of thinking. Then we can both be fools.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 1/21/10 at 4:10 pm to
quote:

The national media aptly dubbed the Penn State game as “The Dummy vs. the Mummy.”




Link?


Well I preferred "Joe Pa versus Faux Pas" anyway.
Posted by lsuexpert57
Back Brusly
Member since Oct 2008
1634 posts
Posted on 1/21/10 at 4:11 pm to
quote:

The guy's just not a very good coach. This has become obvious to most everyone now, save for a select few true believers and apologists. I am pleased the Advocate printed the letter. The displeasure with Miles is not limited to the "rantards." It is permeating through the entire fan base. So much so, that I would venture to say that Miles has more detractors than he does supporters.


Wrong! He is a good coach. Here let me try to explain it to you this way. Lets say a genie just gave you the power to select any college coach you want to run your team. The top two choices would be Saban and Meyer. Agree so far? In my opinion they are the top two coaches in the game today. (wouldn't it be great to have Meyer running your offense and Saban coaching your defense? enough dreaming) Ok then you choose but then the genie says, no you can have anyone but those two. Well now you're stuck because your team has to play in the same conference with the two BEST coaches and whomever you choose is always going to be at a disadvantge to those two so you have to settle for third best. Hmmmm...well I guess I just have to do the best I can. Just gimme the guy who came in third in the best conference in the country. What's his name anyway...oh yeah...Les Miles!
Posted by danfraz
San Antonio TX
Member since Apr 2008
24550 posts
Posted on 1/21/10 at 4:15 pm to
quote:

Danfraz, you are amongst the biggest Miles Apologists on the board.


Your an idiot and clearly have a problem with reading comprehension.

Feel free to rant and rave about how the current head coach should be fired. With a career record of 51-14 at LSU.

quote:

Yet you criticize a letter to an editor (calling it an embarassment)


It was a embarassment. Please explain how that letter helps LSU football in anyway whatsoever?

quote:

you'll come around to my way of thinking


Child please, I have a clear conception of reality and understanding of how things in the world work. Something you and the Les Miles Must Go after a 8-5 and 9-4 season do not get. No one on this board has any idea how next season will play out, all your ranting about how you "know" the future is doomed shows how little you really know
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295724 posts
Posted on 1/21/10 at 4:23 pm to

It won't be long. I doubt he makes it to 1/1/11 as LSU's head football coach. Hopefully, Aleva is bright enough to realize this inevitability, and has quietly begun some informal discussions on potential replacements. Now is the time to gauge interest and develop a short list. If done properly, we should easily upgrade from Miles to someone that gives us a real chance at a dynasty.




Calling for Miles to get fired this year is too much, don't see why people think its any kind of a possibility.

To those who think the "ranters" are the only ones who think Miles may be in over his head, you are dead wrong. Most of the college football world thinks this. I hope LSU contends for the SEC next year and Les Miles is here for years to come. If he can turn it around, he will be.

If Miles and co. lose to UF, Bama and either Arkansas or Ole Miss next year you can bet it will be the last year for Miles. People who pay Miles salary are not happy, and the boosters will not allow it to continue

Harping for Miles to be fired now is futile. Its not up to anyone but him and his staff. Next year is his crossroads.
Posted by geaux99
Wamegeaux, KS
Member since Aug 2005
1619 posts
Posted on 1/21/10 at 4:36 pm to
quote:

Your an idiot and clearly have a problem with reading comprehension.


Really? I'll just let everyone else read your posts in this thread. I'm surprised you're in denial. No I'm not. You still think Les is gonna turn the ship onward and upward. Nope, we'll be the same team next year, and the year after that, and the year after that, until 4 and 5 star recruits figure out that they're never gonna be able to play for a national championship because Miles will never beat Meyer or Saban. You can call my guesses doom and gloom, but if it looks like shite and smells like shite...

quote:

Please explain how that letter helps LSU football in anyway whatsoever?


Never said it did. But it won't hurt LSU football as much as keeping shite for brains around for another 3 years.

quote:

I have a clear conception of reality


No, you clearly fricking don't. I called you out for being the Sunshine Pumping Miles Apologist you are, and you say I'm not reading your posts well enough. I cite how you've criticized a letter by calling it an embarassment and praising those things that are the antithesis of the authors points, and you say I didn't really understand what you wrote when you called the letter an embarassment. Cause it sure as hell looks like you think Miles is the right coach for the job and that his performance warrants the cash he makes.
Posted by BIG PLAY
METRY BRA
Member since Nov 2009
155 posts
Posted on 1/21/10 at 4:39 pm to
does anyone here think that LESS Miles deserves 4 million dollars a year? If so your a fricking moron and if not, fire his arse because he isn't worth the money and bad press he brings to the school!!!!!!!!!!! Plus the fact he will destroy LSU's rep if he stays past this year.
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 1/21/10 at 4:41 pm to
Its true...everywhere I go or talk to people that aren't from Louisiana always brings this up...

Its embarrassing, seriously. We'll get on the subject of Football eventually about the SEC. When we get to LSU they'll always say, "so LSU has some talent, they get some of the top recruiting classes every year with Bama/Florida."

*moment of silence between us*

They respond: "Good thing for the rest of the SEC they have a coach who can't manage the clock. Is he hiring a clock assistant yet?"
Posted by danfraz
San Antonio TX
Member since Apr 2008
24550 posts
Posted on 1/21/10 at 4:41 pm to
quote:

You still think Les is gonna turn the ship onward and upward.



please copy and paste where I said that agent99.

quote:

we'll be the same team next year, and the year after that, and the year after that,


please share how you KNOW this to be a FACT

quote:

warrants the cash he makes


you writing those checks? Is keeping or not keeping Les Miles your decision?

Obviously you have some anger issues with the current head coach at LSU. I wouldn't label my biggest enemy "shite for brains" yet you profess this deep love for LSU football while you ramble on and on about how you "KNOW" the future
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 1/21/10 at 4:43 pm to
Exactly what this board needs...more Nostradamus'
Posted by ZTiger87
Member since Nov 2009
11536 posts
Posted on 1/21/10 at 4:46 pm to
quote:

Really? I'll just let everyone else read your posts in this thread. I'm surprised you're in denial. No I'm not. You still think Les is gonna turn the ship onward and upward. Nope, we'll be the same team next year, and the year after that, and the year after that, until 4 and 5 star recruits figure out that they're never gonna be able to play for a national championship because Miles will never beat Meyer or Saban. You can call my guesses doom and gloom, but if it looks like shite and smells like shite...


The problem with this is that Miles has had recruits that played for a NC and Miles has beaten Meyer and Saban. So to say he hasn't or can't or never will is incorrect.
This post was edited on 1/21/10 at 4:48 pm
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