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re: Letter to the Advocate - Unhappy fans

Posted on 1/21/10 at 1:02 pm to
Posted by TexasTiger89
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2005
26399 posts
Posted on 1/21/10 at 1:02 pm to
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I'm not a fan


That is why I said "some"

I did not hear anything about Mack Brown, Steve Spurrier, Rich Rodriguez, Houston Nutt, .... as candidates either. Miles would be on a long list of coaches not mentioned this year.
Posted by TigerFan55555
Tomball, TX
Member since Nov 2008
9833 posts
Posted on 1/21/10 at 1:07 pm to
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This is called the rant for a reason.......people come here to vent. Would you like it if all we had were kumbaya threads, and we were celebrating that Curley Hallman, Smoke Laval, and John Brady were still coaching at LSU?

+1
Posted by Rosceaux
Tiger Den
Member since Sep 2007
1070 posts
Posted on 1/21/10 at 1:08 pm to
This is why I pretty much stick to the O-T!!!
Posted by TigerFan55555
Tomball, TX
Member since Nov 2008
9833 posts
Posted on 1/21/10 at 1:10 pm to
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Given that Louisiana is supposed to have a stellar pool of recruits next year it would probably be a good idea to leave Les alone until after National Signing Day 2011. Firing him next season will not help recruiting.


I like your thinking but, do you think those big time recruits will stay for 7-5?
Posted by TigerFan55555
Tomball, TX
Member since Nov 2008
9833 posts
Posted on 1/21/10 at 1:11 pm to
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That kid is going to be perhaps the biggest scapegoat in the history of this state. Did he also cause Katrina, 9/11 and global warming?

What a strong program Miles built that could be destroyed for two years (and counting) by the loss of one player. I'm sure he would have been a big help on the defensive line these past two years if he had stayed, and not having him around to call time out in the Ole Miss game was a real killer.


+1000000000000000000000000
good one...
Posted by Methuselah
On da Riva
Member since Jan 2005
23350 posts
Posted on 1/21/10 at 1:11 pm to
TigerbandAumunus...
quote:

So, what's the "Regular Season" breaking point and just cause for termination next year?
6-6,7-5,8-4. What about another duplicate 9-3 and second behind Bama in the West with either a Bowl win or loss?

I'd say 9 wins probably stay, 7 wins gone. 8 wins probably gone depending on the bowl outcome, season ticket renewals (for this coming season), licensing revenue, recruiting, etc.

TigerFan55555: I think I'm noticing a trend. People with lots of numbers in their name tend to be those in the "vent" catagory.


This post was edited on 1/21/10 at 1:13 pm
Posted by TigerFan55555
Tomball, TX
Member since Nov 2008
9833 posts
Posted on 1/21/10 at 1:15 pm to
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Choctaw

quote:

Miles knows how to coach and knows more about football than anyone on this board.

I'd debate that...some on here are actually pretty sharp...And I'd love the chance to coach against his arse...
Posted by TigerFan55555
Tomball, TX
Member since Nov 2008
9833 posts
Posted on 1/21/10 at 1:19 pm to

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Choctaw

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How many times was Miles mentioned this year as a candidate for a vacant head coaching position?

About as many times as Mack Brown, Tressel, Saban. You cant judge a coach on that criteria


ever hear of twisting facts to make them support your argument there Choctaw?

sure no one mentioned those guys for different reasons
Mack Brown-best job in nation, highest paid
Saban- great program, big money, expanding stadim
Tressel- big stadium, big money, mediocre conference that he can dominate
Miles- cause nobody wants the fricker!!!!
This post was edited on 1/21/10 at 1:20 pm
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 1/21/10 at 1:21 pm to
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I was gonna add some of you guys can start contacting coaches - do some ground work. But then I thought some ranters might actually take that seriously and pick up the phone.


Actually, I have already been unofficially offered the job through a third party intermediary who isn't directly employed by LSU. I was in a bar complaining about Miles, and the guy said "If you know so much, why don't YOU coach the team?" I was able to read between the lines and figure out that he must have been asked by LSU to approach me and gauge my interest in the position.

My agent will be in touch with Alleva soon.
Posted by TigerFan55555
Tomball, TX
Member since Nov 2008
9833 posts
Posted on 1/21/10 at 1:27 pm to
quote:

TigerFan55555: I think I'm noticing a trend. People with lots of numbers in their name tend to be those in the "vent" catagory.



well, sometimes I vent when I see positigers just going nuts for a guy that is not worth the money we pay him...but I can be level headed and say that he should be given next year to try and turn it around...I however have no faith that he will...Not saying I want to see him fail...cause I want our team to do well and compete for NC's every year, but the so called "negatigers" are realist and we do live in a real world....I believe LM to be a good man, but should not be leading our beloved tigers...
Posted by TigerFan55555
Tomball, TX
Member since Nov 2008
9833 posts
Posted on 1/21/10 at 1:29 pm to
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If Miles does go after next year it is imperitive that it's done quickly after the season and that a really top notch replacement is found to keep the recruits and maybe even improve the class (judging by USC and Tenn this year there seem to be a lot of coaches turning down jobs).


I agree, talking with other coaches should be done before his firing...My first choice would be to go after Gary Patterson and not take no for an answer... I want a defensive minded strong diciplinarian...WHO BLITZES!!! BRING PRESSURE!!!
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 1/21/10 at 2:39 pm to
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ever hear of twisting facts to make them support your argument there Choctaw?


How did i twist facts? I just named 3 of many coaches that werent sought after for other HC jobs?

quote:

sure no one mentioned those guys for different reasons
Mack Brown-best job in nation, highest paid
Saban- great program, big money, expanding stadim
Tressel- big stadium, big money, mediocre conference that he can dominate
Miles- cause nobody wants the fricker!!!!


talk about twisting the facts.
Posted by filmmaker45
Member since Mar 2008
14554 posts
Posted on 1/21/10 at 2:52 pm to
I give him next year. This guy is just beating a dead horse. What he's said is not original.
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 1/21/10 at 2:58 pm to
Attorney A. Wayne Stewart should concentrate more on lawsuites than LSU football.

Posted by TigersRuleTheEarth
Laffy
Member since Jan 2007
28643 posts
Posted on 1/21/10 at 3:07 pm to
quote:

Letter to the Advocate - Unhappy fans


The stupidity is oozing out of the interweb and onto the printed page now.
Posted by Tiger_n_ATL
Ft. Lauderdale
Member since Jul 2005
33257 posts
Posted on 1/21/10 at 3:21 pm to
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Being negative is too draining an honestly a waste of time.
I agree with you here, it is draining, but some just can't fain contentment and happiness when they see a train wreck coming and just witnessed perhaps the most boring, frustrating and unfulfilling football season since Curley in '92. I don't fault you for feeling positive, but Miles needs to feel the heat for a few months here so that he knows his job is not secure unless he can improve and show something on the field.

Let's face it, until his team takes the field and he shows at least in the spring game that he has retooled the offense, he is going to be under the gun whether you like it or not.
Posted by Tiger_n_ATL
Ft. Lauderdale
Member since Jul 2005
33257 posts
Posted on 1/21/10 at 3:23 pm to
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The stupidity is oozing out of the interweb and onto the printed page now.
The letter wasn't stupid at all, it was factual and to the point. It also addressed all of the real stupidity, which is what we saw on the field this year from Les Miles. The writer has every right to express himself as he sees fit.
Posted by danfraz
San Antonio TX
Member since Apr 2008
24550 posts
Posted on 1/21/10 at 3:23 pm to
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just witnessed perhaps the most boring, frustrating and unfulfilling football season since Curley in '92


nah 02 was that. without the bluegrass miracle that season was a disaster.

96 was a very blah 10 win season
Posted by TigersRuleTheEarth
Laffy
Member since Jan 2007
28643 posts
Posted on 1/21/10 at 3:38 pm to
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The letter wasn't stupid at all, it was factual and to the point.


There were maybe 3 items that could be considered facts. The rest was hyperbole.

Facts:
-With 29 seconds remaining, the ball was whistled ready for play. The ball was snapped with nine seconds left. Les Miles did not know that the clock runs following an offensive penalty.
-Penn State ran 75 plays. LSU ran 49.
-A. Wayne Stewart lawyer Denham Springs(not really a fact, but I had to stretch it to get 3 factual things out of that letter)

Hyperbole:
-The tragedy of the “Meltdown in Mississippi” is that there was no meltdown. The world visualized lack of preparation and inability to adapt, tempered with incompetence.
The country learned (what everyone in the SEC already knew) that LSU coach Les Miles is way over his head. In all human endeavor, you get what you tolerate. We have tolerated the insanity that is Les Miles for too many years. Our program is in free fall.
-We have a duty to demand the termination of Les Miles. He has coached our very talented players into underachievers.
He has embarrassed LSU and our state. MIM was not poor clock management. It was ignorance at the rate of $4 million per year. And we are paying the bill. We demand better.
Offensively, there has never been a game plan, a scheme. Random would be a compliment to the play-calling. Defensively, “bend, don’t break” keeps the score low, but it does not get you off the field.
- The failures are systemic, and they start at the top.
The secret of MIM is twofold. First, it is not a secret. The national media aptly dubbed the Penn State game as “The Dummy vs. the Mummy.” Second, it did not start at Ole Miss. It started the day Les Miles was hired. We get what we tolerate. Les Miles must be terminated.
It is time for the humiliation to end. The athletic director asked for his job. He should do his job.

quote:

The writer has every right to express himself as he sees fit.


No shite huh? Who said he shouldn't? I just classified it the way it should be classified: as complete BS.
This post was edited on 1/21/10 at 3:43 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295718 posts
Posted on 1/21/10 at 3:40 pm to
Probably better to compare Miles to John Cooper than any other coach I can think of, except Cooper was wildly successful. His last two years, paired with the lack of success vs Michigan got him shown the door.

Winning a NC, having 10 win seasons don't mean a lot if you can't beat your conference rivals. LSU will know in a year whether we have another Cooper on our hands.
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