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re: Let's revisit Breaux's fair/foul ball in the 9th

Posted on 5/26/16 at 10:03 am to
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 5/26/16 at 10:03 am to
even if the ball was tailing(and it was), it was still going to land fair. But as pointed out, that is irrelevant if he touches it in fair terittory, which he clearly did
Posted by tigerbytail
slapout
Member since Mar 2016
557 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 10:04 am to
Thats What a manager does
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 5/26/16 at 10:05 am to
it was fair. really no debate. i just cant believe he didnt catch it.
Posted by OneMoreTime
Florida Gulf Coast Fan
Member since Dec 2008
61860 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 10:06 am to
Yeah that's a fair ball.

On a side note, I'm still convinced that Chris Reid's foot touched the bag on the bunt play in the 11th before the runner got there. Everyone was focused on the tag, but I think his foot got there.
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
96866 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 10:07 am to
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On a side note, I'm still convinced that Chris Reid's foot touched the bag on the bunt play in the 11th before the runner got there. Everyone was focused on the tag, but I think his foot got there.



it was very very close. i agree he might have snuck his foot in. but of course can't review that.
Posted by DArbonneDuke
D'Arbonne, LA
Member since Nov 2005
1462 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 10:08 am to
After watching multiple replays last night, I had to agree the umps got it right. I just didn't think there was indisputable video evidence. That was my only beef. Also it's the umps discretion where to place the runner. 2nd base was the right call, but Reed may have in fact made it to 3rd after Breaux kicked it.
Posted by PhillyTiger90
Member since Dec 2015
11645 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 10:08 am to
Shouldn't have been awarded a double

Agree with overturning it as it was a fair ball but give the man 1st base and move on
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
96866 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 10:09 am to
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but Reed may have in fact made it to 3rd after Breaux kicked it.



no doubt. and maybe he gets thrown out. definitely kinda crazy they can just arbitrarily award a double.
Posted by Taurus
Loozianna
Member since Feb 2015
4955 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 10:10 am to
Easily a fair ball. Good overturn.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91320 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 10:11 am to
That's an incriminating screen shot but it's from the same video I used for the screenshot. I'm on mobile at the moment but later I'll see if I can get a PP7-esque conspiracy video with lines drawn and shite.
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 10:23 am to
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Really should have been caught. No replay needed.


damn that's harsh man. it was almost amazing that he got to the ball; he's fast as hell. the problem with a ball that is almost perpendicular to your body is that it is very hard to judge exactly where it will come down. he actually overran the ball and it hit on the heel of his glove. he would probably make that catch better than 50% of the time but it just was not to be; by inches.
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
96866 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 10:27 am to
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he would probably make that catch better than 50% of the time


i'd say 99% of the time. it was pretty routine for a college outfielder. it wasnt a can of corn but not the toughest play in the world.

they actually ruled that play a hit so newman got an earned run. really awful scoring.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87202 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 10:29 am to
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they actually ruled that play a hit so newman got an earned run. really awful scoring
Scoring has been bad all week.
Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
26326 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 10:47 am to
Disregard
This post was edited on 5/26/16 at 10:50 am
Posted by LC412000
Any location where a plane flies
Member since Mar 2004
16673 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 11:08 am to
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my question - how can you award two bases?
does that allow three bases for another runner, who is really fast
I believe the two base award is because the ball was touched by the ballboy which amounts to interference and the batter is given second base.
Posted by sardog12
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
1182 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 11:25 am to
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The ball was in fair territory when it touched Breaux' glove. Doesn't matter where it might have landed or what happened after it touched the glove.


Are you sure about that? I don't know but the announcers stated repeatedly that it would have to be determined where the ball would have hit if it hadn't been touched to make a ruling on fair/foul. I know they aren't always experts but they seemed pretty certain about this. Either way, though, it certainly seems that it would have hit either within a foot inside of or on the line if it hadn't been touched.
Posted by beauchristopher
Member since Jan 2008
72321 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 11:29 am to
It looks like it's inconclusive so I am still surprised they ruled definitively on such a play that was originally called foul

I just can't see how you can say for sure which way it truly lands.
This post was edited on 5/26/16 at 11:31 am
Posted by 81Tiger
LSU Alumnus
Member since Sep 2009
6827 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 11:58 am to
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I just don't see how you overturn that AND award him a double if you called it foul on the field. The umpire is in perfect position.

And for those of you who don't know, the position of Breaux's body is irrelevant.



Sometimes replays work, and sometimes they don't.

Posted by TampaTiger22
Tampa, FL
Member since Jul 2012
6669 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 12:11 pm to
They changed the call bc it was clearly fair. Also, the ball hit the heel of the glove and that pushed it away. We call that a stone glove
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George, LA
Member since Aug 2004
80497 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 12:16 pm to
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it was clearly fair in both clips,
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