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Let's list all NCAAF coaches with more success than Les Miles
Posted on 11/9/15 at 11:33 am
Posted on 11/9/15 at 11:33 am
1. Nick Saban (unavailable)
2. Urban Meyer (unavailable)
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2. Urban Meyer (unavailable)
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Posted on 11/9/15 at 11:35 am to Galactic Inquisitor
I love Les, but trying to hold him high after losing to the same team for the 5th straight time is not making it better.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 11:35 am to sjmabry
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I love Les, but trying to hold him high after losing to the same team for the 5th straight time is not making it better.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 11:37 am to Galactic Inquisitor
Let's bring in spurrier if we're going to use such guideline
Posted on 11/9/15 at 11:37 am to Galactic Inquisitor
I love Les, but he can't get over the hump as long as Saban is at Bama. It is what it is.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 11:37 am to Galactic Inquisitor
What are you looking for? Wins or championships
Posted on 11/9/15 at 11:38 am to Galactic Inquisitor
Now, lets list all NCAAF coaches with more championships than coach LES!
Posted on 11/9/15 at 11:39 am to Galactic Inquisitor
problem is Les the reason we're good, but he's also the reason we'll never be great.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 11:42 am to Galactic Inquisitor
I see the argument you're trying to make, but you're ignoring the potential coaches just waiting to break out (Tom Herman for example). Obviously the trouble is finding the right one. If you're wrong, you end up being Tennessee for over a decade. I think I'd rather stick with Les and hope for a lucky break one year (like 2007).
Posted on 11/9/15 at 11:45 am to Galactic Inquisitor
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Galactic Inquisitor
It's not that you're wrong or that I don't appreciate this.
My issue is that it's necessary to do this at all. Miles has been shat on by the LSU fan base literally before he ever to a step onto the field in Tempe back in 2005. for many, there has never been anything he could do to win them over...and they've been miserable each and every step of the way.
I bet we could all name a handful of people we know personally who spent the better part of the 2011 season fricking miserable, right?
This has made a situation on boards like this where now you can;t have a legitimate discussion about Miles, the program, etc...at all. the well was poisoned LONG before there was ever a reason to even look into the damn well!
I think that Miles and his program DO deserve some criticism after 5 straight REALLY meaningful losses to our bitter rival...but to what end? Those that hat Miles and have since day 1 don;t need my input to dislike them guy, and I'm not eager to give them any red meat. And you're put in a position to make posts like this, which while true look like nothing but an attempt to deflect...which it is.
I'm not offering a solution, btw...I think we're long past that in terms of discussion about Miles on this forum...
Posted on 11/9/15 at 11:45 am to Galactic Inquisitor
Dabo
Jimbo
(past 5 years)
Jimbo
(past 5 years)
Posted on 11/9/15 at 11:47 am to Galactic Inquisitor
Go back and look at when Tennessee got frustrated with Fulmer. LSU would probly fare just as bad finding a new coach right now as Tennessee has for the past 8 years.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 11:50 am to LSUJuice
We're LSU, we're just happy to get lucky every once in a blue moon 
That's the exact mentality that will prevent us from ever being as great as bama. We hope to win, they expect to win.
That's the exact mentality that will prevent us from ever being as great as bama. We hope to win, they expect to win.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 11:50 am to Galactic Inquisitor
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coaches with more success than Les Miles
OMG Enough of this
Posted on 11/9/15 at 11:54 am to TH03
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That's the exact mentality that will prevent us from ever being as great as bama. We hope to win, they expect to win.
We expect to win 9-10 games (regular season) a year. It's the 11th and 12th that are the question. I'm not happy with it, but it's a reality.
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we're just happy to get lucky every once in a blue moon
With a national championship? Yes. That's pretty much where every other elite team is. We're in the unfortunate position of having the very best program of the last 6+ years in our own division. Chasing perfection is risky and can get you burned. See Tennessee.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 11:57 am to Galactic Inquisitor
Define Success?
2 SEC titles in 11 years? 3 Division titles in 11 years?
Auburn has more SEC west titles and SEC titles than Les in the last 8 years and more NC appearances and titles than Les.
Since Texas A&M has come into this league, despite LSU killing them, they have the same amount of hardware on their mantles.
Spurrier had 3 11 win seasons in a row and beat the same Clemson team LSU lost to in the bowl game on the road.
That is just looking at the SEC. Hell, Patterson has done more at TCU in the past few years.
Les has not won a BCS bowl since 2007 and has been to one BCS bowl since his last national title.
Again, he's a good recruiter, good man, but has let this team flounder and struggle because he refuses to make the tough decisions with his coaches.
There was literally no reason to bring Peveto back. Steele was a multi-time failure as a DC and a position coach, yet Les hired him to replace Chavis. Again, Les is not as good as someone of you like to believe, and I doubt had he taken over anything but the juggernaut LSU already was in 2005 that this team would be anything more than an annual 8-5 team on average.
2 SEC titles in 11 years? 3 Division titles in 11 years?
Auburn has more SEC west titles and SEC titles than Les in the last 8 years and more NC appearances and titles than Les.
Since Texas A&M has come into this league, despite LSU killing them, they have the same amount of hardware on their mantles.
Spurrier had 3 11 win seasons in a row and beat the same Clemson team LSU lost to in the bowl game on the road.
That is just looking at the SEC. Hell, Patterson has done more at TCU in the past few years.
Les has not won a BCS bowl since 2007 and has been to one BCS bowl since his last national title.
Again, he's a good recruiter, good man, but has let this team flounder and struggle because he refuses to make the tough decisions with his coaches.
There was literally no reason to bring Peveto back. Steele was a multi-time failure as a DC and a position coach, yet Les hired him to replace Chavis. Again, Les is not as good as someone of you like to believe, and I doubt had he taken over anything but the juggernaut LSU already was in 2005 that this team would be anything more than an annual 8-5 team on average.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 11:59 am to Geauxgurt
Miles is useless.Time to move on.Time to get a new coach.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 12:00 pm to Tiger Stadium 11
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Go back and look at when Tennessee got frustrated with Fulmer. LSU would probly fare just as bad finding a new coach right now as Tennessee has for the past 8 years.
Tennessee made horrible hires. That is the difference. They hired Kiffin off one year where he was fired as Raiders head coach. They then hired Dooley purely off his name. They then hired Butch Jones that didn't really prove shite prior to being hire.
That's what happens when you hire bad to mediocre coaches rather than looking at their resumes as a whole.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 12:05 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
Cane we comprise a list of coaches who have the same talent and facilities as CLM...also that have no in state recruiting competition in a talent rich state? Also bordering 2 states with great talent?
How good was he at Ok. St...record and recruiting?
How good was he at Ok. St...record and recruiting?
Posted on 11/9/15 at 12:11 pm to Tiger Stadium 11
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Go back and look at when Tennessee got frustrated with Fulmer
Everyone loves to mention Tennessee, but Tennessee hadn't been recruiting well when Fulmer was fired. LSU will always have talent because of the in state talent pool. But with what's going on we're losing recruits to other programs.
This post was edited on 11/9/15 at 12:23 pm
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